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Cannibal Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Still people bizarrely claiming it is fair or necessary for the spfl to allow automatic promotion from this farce of a league, I see. The answer is very simple. Sort it out so the the lowland league contains the best of the non-league teams and then it will happen. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekok Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I assume this makes sense to you, willing to share ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowdenleith Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Cannibal said: Still people bizarrely claiming it is fair or necessary for the spfl to allow automatic promotion from this farce of a league, I see. The answer is very simple. Sort it out so the the lowland league contains the best of the non-league teams and then it will happen. I’d like to hear the logic behind that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 He is a Clyde supporter. Let's be charitable and assume he hasn't had his methadone yet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 1 hour ago, Cannibal said: Still people bizarrely claiming it is fair or necessary for the spfl to allow automatic promotion from this farce of a league, I see. The answer is very simple. Sort it out so the the lowland league contains the best of the non-league teams and then it will happen. Might help if the WoSFL could get a licensed champion. Maybe this “sorting out” could start there?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 16 minutes ago, Deanburn Dave said: He is a Clyde supporter. Let's be charitable and assume he hasn't had his methadone yet A stronger LL will be a factor in driving any change 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 hours ago, Cannibal said: Still people bizarrely claiming it is fair or necessary for the spfl to allow automatic promotion from this farce of a league, I see. The answer is very simple. Sort it out so the the lowland league contains the best of the non-league teams and then it will happen. If you give us a little more detail we'll be able to tell you exactly in which way you're wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Somewhat amazed people are struggling with what I said. The scottish football league system has existed for over a century. Perhaps you all could explain why a league that allows B teams to play in it and actively impedes superior teams from below being promoted to it should be given automatic promotion to that league. The pyramid system should see each tier containing teams which are 'better' than the ones below. The onus is on those outside the league to show they are at least attempting to achieve this. This is blindingly obvious to most people even without explanation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 4 minutes ago, Cannibal said: Somewhat amazed people are struggling with what I said. The scottish football league system has existed for over a century. Perhaps you all could explain why a league that allows B teams to play in it and actively impedes superior teams from below being promoted to it should be given automatic promotion to that league. The pyramid system should see each tier containing teams which are 'better' than the ones below. The onus is on those outside the league to show they are at least attempting to achieve this. This is blindingly obvious to most people even without explanation. In what way is the league “actively impeding” these “superior teams”. Could you also explain what constitutes a “superior team” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 16 minutes ago, To B or not B said: In what way is the league “actively impeding” these “superior teams”. Could you also explain what constitutes a “superior team” It has been done to death and you know exactly what I mean. My original point was being amazed folk still claimed automatic promotion was in any way fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 Just now, Cannibal said: It has been done to death and you know exactly what I mean. My original point was being amazed folk still claimed automatic promotion was in any way fair. The point that usually gets brought up is automatic promotion for the HL/LL Play-off winner. Which isn't automatic promotion for the Lowland League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 2 minutes ago, Cannibal said: It has been done to death and you know exactly what I mean. My original point was being amazed folk still claimed automatic promotion was in any way fair. In a meritorious system it is fair, which football is supposed to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 38 minutes ago, To B or not B said: In a meritorious system it is fair, which football is supposed to be. Yes. Let's get the meritorious system in place from tier 5 down and then we can open it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 42 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: The point that usually gets brought up is automatic promotion for the HL/LL Play-off winner. Which isn't automatic promotion for the Lowland League. Fair point. HL are indeed losing out due to the LL which is a shame 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 4 minutes ago, Cannibal said: Yes. Let's get the meritorious system in place from tier 5 down and then we can open it up. That system exists in tier 5, ask Tranent, Linlithgow and Broxburn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilbyfan Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 If-as might happen-a superior team such as Clyde follows Albion Rovers, Cowdenbeath, East Stirling and Berwick Rangers into the Lowland league, I assume that cannibal (or whatever he calls himself) will still be against automatic promotion? Just wondering… 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannibal Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 50 minutes ago, Kilbyfan said: If-as might happen-a superior team such as Clyde follows Albion Rovers, Cowdenbeath, East Stirling and Berwick Rangers into the Lowland league, I assume that cannibal (or whatever he calls himself) will still be against automatic promotion? Just wondering… Kilbyfan (or whatever he calls himself) would be wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Another Westie whinging. When the LL was set up there were places left for any Central/Ayrshire Juniors who would be interested. A couple of clubs were but had their arms twisted by the SJFA. This is the reason EK, BSC and Cumbernauld got in and not, say, Pollok, Clydebank and Talbot. Having seen Beith get taken apart by Bo'ness Ath I'm not sure who these "superior" clubs are. I've been to Shotts v Clydebank this season and am not sure either club would trouble Lithgae, Bo'ness United, Tranent or Broxburn overly. Get the B teams out though 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted August 18 Author Share Posted August 18 Fans can come on here and elsewhere, and say what they like on the pyramid format. "Its not going to change until X happens" They've done it for the decade the pyramid has existed and long before it was a reality. Whenever an idea has been realistically floated: Conference, SPFL3, SPFL expansion. There's rarely, if ever, been automatic promotion included between the SPFL and below. A play-off format has been kept. Its not about the quality of teams. There's just no money in non-league football. It was a struggle for the SFL to drum up interest when split from the SPL. Its become an even worse environment since then. Easy access to international football. Rise of women's football for corporate sponsorships. No one is rushing to open up the trapdoor under any circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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