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1 hour ago, Cowdenleith said:

Almost a full LL card over tonight and tomorrow, though don’t think it will be great for getting people through the gates, so glad that Cowdenbeath moved their game with Hearts B to a spare Saturday on 21 January.

Berwick v Tranent looks interesting, see if Liam Buchanan can once again save Berwick as he has done so many times this season.  

Spartans v Rangers B looks a good one as well, can Rangers shore up their leaky defence agains a very solid Spartans team? A bit tempted to head along to this one, though back to work in the morning probably means can’t be bothered for a 7.45 kick off 😆

The amount of midweek games is mad.

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48 minutes ago, Cowdenleith said:

Yeah, it looked nuts the amount of midweeks when the fixtures were released and still does now. 

The scheduling of a midweek card this week is particularly baffling.

Aye first week after Christmas and New Year and folk are stretched for cash great time to play 3 games in a week.

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1 hour ago, Cowdenleith said:

Yeah, it looked nuts the amount of midweeks when the fixtures were released and still does now. 

The scheduling of a midweek card this week is particularly baffling.

 

27 minutes ago, cowdenbeath said:

Aye first week after Christmas and New Year and folk are stretched for cash great time to play 3 games in a week.

Bad enough with the 4 extra games with the O/F now got another 2 with the addition of Hearts. It’s ridiculous at this time of year especially over the festive season. Those that voted to continue with the O/F and then add Hearts to the mix have a look in the mirror and still say it’s a good idea.

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1 hour ago, boheesian said:

 

Bad enough with the 4 extra games with the O/F now got another 2 with the addition of Hearts. It’s ridiculous at this time of year especially over the festive season. Those that voted to continue with the O/F and then add Hearts to the mix have a look in the mirror and still say it’s a good idea.

But you will have benefitted from all that extra sponsor money and prestige you were promised by having the Colts involved... 

You were also promised the extra media attention for all teams in the league... 

While we are at it, where are the 2 con-men (Fraser and Clarke) now? Awfly quiet coincidering they preached so hard at bringing the Colts in, then all disappeared as soon as the deal was done  💷💷💷

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1 hour ago, boheesian said:

 

Bad enough with the 4 extra games with the O/F now got another 2 with the addition of Hearts. It’s ridiculous at this time of year especially over the festive season. Those that voted to continue with the O/F and then add Hearts to the mix have a look in the mirror and still say it’s a good idea.

The LL are playing the same amount of games as the 10 team league 2, so I’m not sure I’m getting your point?

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17 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said:

The LL are playing the same amount of games as the 10 team league 2, so I’m not sure I’m getting your point?

With an odd number of teams it's an extra two matchdays in total (38), and one less Saturday than L2 (LL starts one week earlier, but finishes two weeks earlier).

3 hours ago, Cowdenleith said:

Yeah, it looked nuts the amount of midweeks when the fixtures were released and still does now. 

The scheduling of a midweek card this week is particularly baffling.

Well there's 40 Saturdays available between 23rd July and 22nd April to fit in 38 league matchdays, two SCC dates, and the Scottish Cup (plus EOSQC for other clubs).

The fixture secretary has chosen to set aside 12 Saturdays with no league games scheduled, might seem a bit much but I think it's better to have midweek games (10 matchdays) mostly during the first half of the season, than to run the risk of a fixture pileup near the end of the season. 

Clubs can of course agree to play on different dates, Cowdenbeath have already moved their January and February midweek games to a Saturday due to being out of the cups. They have two more league games to fit in, which leaves just one Saturday remaining. If you get some bad weather in February/March then you're going to be thankful for having played those midweeks.

Of course it would be much better if it was a 16 team league again...

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14 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

With an odd number of teams it's an extra two matchdays in total (38), and one less Saturday than L2 (LL starts one week earlier, but finishes two weeks earlier).

Well there's 40 Saturdays available between 23rd July and 22nd April to fit in 38 league matchdays, two SCC dates, and the Scottish Cup (plus EOSQC for other clubs).

The fixture secretary has chosen to set aside 12 Saturdays with no league games scheduled, might seem a bit much but I think it's better to have midweek games (10 matchdays) mostly during the first half of the season, than to run the risk of a fixture pileup near the end of the season. 

Clubs can of course agree to play on different dates, Cowdenbeath have already moved their January and February midweek games to a Saturday due to being out of the cups. They have two more league games to fit in, which leaves just one Saturday remaining. If you get some bad weather in February/March then you're going to be thankful for having played those midweeks.

Of course it would be much better if it was a 16 team league again...

Notwithstanding what you have said, the scheduling of a full set of fixtures on the evenings of 3/4 January is the work of someone/some people who are completely out of touch with the supporters of the clubs they are supposed to represent.  

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1 minute ago, craigkillie said:

No idea why they couldn't have played during the day today, as the Highland League have done - it's a bank holiday in most, if not all of Scotland, is it not?

Yes, but oddly only three games scheduled for today in the HL, but having said that, the weather would likely to have put paid to a good few games across places like Huntly, Keith, Rothes, Turriff, Grantown etc, as it did the Brora-Wick game, as still pretty white & cold up here. As it was the sea level grounds at Clach & Buckie had to pass matchday morning pitch inspections.

It's also an eternal debate up here as to whether better use could be made of early season midweeks in order to get ahead of the inevitable winter weather related postponements, & save on what can sometimes be an end-of-season period of Saturday-Wednesday-Saturday-Wednesday games in order to finish according to the required play-off related schedule.

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13 minutes ago, craigkillie said:

No idea why they couldn't have played during the day today, as the Highland League have done - it's a bank holiday in most, if not all of Scotland, is it not?

It’s a Scottish bank holiday only, a lot of people will be back to work today. Loads of folk, including myself, work for larger English based companies and the work is back to normal today. I took today off mind you as I hate going back after new year. 😆

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53 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

With an odd number of teams it's an extra two matchdays in total (38), and one less Saturday than L2 (LL starts one week earlier, but finishes two weeks earlier).

Well there's 40 Saturdays available between 23rd July and 22nd April to fit in 38 league matchdays, two SCC dates, and the Scottish Cup (plus EOSQC for other clubs).

The fixture secretary has chosen to set aside 12 Saturdays with no league games scheduled, might seem a bit much but I think it's better to have midweek games (10 matchdays) mostly during the first half of the season, than to run the risk of a fixture pileup near the end of the season. 

Clubs can of course agree to play on different dates, Cowdenbeath have already moved their January and February midweek games to a Saturday due to being out of the cups. They have two more league games to fit in, which leaves just one Saturday remaining. If you get some bad weather in February/March then you're going to be thankful for having played those midweeks.

Of course it would be much better if it was a 16 team league again...

First of all its 36 games. 

Surely a level 5 league and feeder into the SPFL should be putting league fixtures ahead of Cup games out with the Scottish Cup.

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4 hours ago, cowdenbeath said:

First of all its 36 games. 

Surely a level 5 league and feeder into the SPFL should be putting league fixtures ahead of Cup games out with the Scottish Cup.

The SPFL puts its own Challenge Cup on two Saturdays and leaves three Scottish Cup dates free as well (but they an extra Saturday to play with and two fewer league games).

The South Challenge Cup is the Lowland's "own" main competition but the difference is that not all clubs have floodlights so you couldn't run it as a midweek tournament like the SPFL League or Challenge Cups, so more Saturdays need to be kept free.

Suppose it's also a question of whether to it's better to schedule more Saturday games but with the caveat that they might have to be moved if one of the clubs progresses in the cup, or if it's better to move scheduled midweek games to Saturday once teams both are out of the cups...

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4 minutes ago, Ginaro said:

The SPFL puts its own Challenge Cup on two Saturdays and leaves three Scottish Cup dates free as well (but they an extra Saturday to play with and two fewer league games).

The South Challenge Cup is the Lowland's "own" main competition but the difference is that not all clubs have floodlights so you couldn't run it as a midweek tournament like the SPFL League or Challenge Cups, so more Saturdays need to be kept free.

Suppose it's also a question of whether to it's better to schedule more Saturday games but with the caveat that they might have to be moved if one of the clubs progresses in the cup, or if it's better to move scheduled midweek games to Saturday once teams both are out of the cups...

That's what they should be doing. The SPFL play the same amount of games although they have the sense to make their leagues even numbers.

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Took in the Cumbernauld-East Stirling game last night. Another good win, along with back-to-back clean sheets for the home side, who seem to be getting themselves sorted with a pretty settled side & style of play that has delivered 10 points from the last five games. They were much the better team against what I'd describe as a workmanlike side in East Stirling, who weren't helped by a red card after 30 minutes, but fair play to them in working really hard to frustrate their hosts, who at the same time didn't help themselves by not making the most of opportunities created.

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