archieb Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 Today's the deadline for clubs to renew or resign SJFA membership in time for the AGM. Just saying .... 1 Quote
FairWeatherFan Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, archieb said: Today's the deadline for clubs to renew or resign SJFA membership in time for the AGM. Just saying .... They're in for £400 in December which i'll imagine will do it's job and tempt most back in. If not see some return. With the bulk of each division taking part Saturdays will likely be given up to accomodate. Even if it has to work like the EOS clubs tried within Conference X last season. Premier Arthurlie Auchinleck Talbot Beith Juniors Cambuslang Rangers Cumnock Juniors Glenafton Athletic Hurlford United Irvine Meadow Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Largs Thistle Petershill Pollok Troon First Benburb Blantyre Victoria Cumbernauld United Gartcairn Johnstone Burgh Kilbirnie Ladeside Rossvale Shotts Bon Accord St Rochs Thorniewood United Whitletts Victoria Second Ardeer Thistle Ashfield Craigmark Burntonians Glasgow Perthshire Glasgow United Greenock Juniors Kilsyth Rangers Maryhill Maybole Juniors Muirkirk Juniors Renfrew St Anthony’s Wishaw Yoker Athletic Third Ardrossan Winton Rovers Carluke Rovers Dalry Thistle East Kilbride Thistle Girvan Irvine Victoria Kello Rovers Lanark United Larkhall Thistle Lesmahagow Lugar Boswell Thistle Newmains United Saltcoats Victoria Vale of Leven 0 Quote
FairWeatherFan Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shanner said: That prize money is pretty good. It is. Best to get it while it's still there. They're dishing out £400 in December that would have been over £40k last season. Plus the prize money for the Junior Scottish Cup are actually minimum guarantees of £5k and £12k for each club. For both Auchinleck and Yoker to have made the same amount of money the semi finals must have been financial losers. 0 Quote
Greenmachine Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 Pointless tournament from a zombie Association. Throwing cash away to try and bribe teams to play in it will only prolong the slow demise. 0 Quote
Yalay Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 I would love to see the Junior Cup become a truly national competition once again. Whether that takes the form of tier 5 and below or tier 6 and below, I don't much care. But if the SJFA has all this money to throw around you would think they would be able to make it happen. 0 Quote
Bestsinceslicebread Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yalay said: I would love to see the Junior Cup become a truly national competition once again. Whether that takes the form of tier 5 and below or tier 6 and below, I don't much care. But if the SJFA has all this money to throw around you would think they would be able to make it happen. National competition, but that level of football has been dwindling for years and I'm not talking a couple, the writing was on the wall for a long time but the people in charge didn't do anything to halt or improve it and I'm not saying this out of hatred or nostalgia, it was slowly fading away. The Senior associations don't need to do anything, they don't even need to give the Junior cup space to play as the senior leagues finishing is more important The SJFA as far as I'm aware have nothing to do with senior football so they cant make it happen, if there's was going to be a national trophy I'd expect the Senior Association to arrange this and have a cup made for it. The South challenge cup has over 160 teams in it and is a cracker of a tournament with the teams that are involved and that's only in the Lowland, WOSFL, SOOSFL and the EOSFL, imagine if the senior association made a cup which included the teams from the leagues I've mentioned and the following Midlands, North Caledonian and North Leagues and the highland leagues, wow what a cup that would be to win. What make this point more funny is that its all FACT and if someone puts a negative point on it, tells you more about that person Edited June 14, 2022 by Bestsinceslicebread 0 Quote
wow-wee Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 5 hours ago, archieb said: Today's the deadline for clubs to renew or resign SJFA membership in time for the AGM. Just saying .... Do you know something that we don t know I've heard two more top clubs not renewing their membership? 0 Quote
GNU_Linux Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 My own prediction is very little movement re:membership. There is one club in particular I'd make an educated guess is resigning. 0 Quote
Arthurlie1981 Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 Serious question, is there a point where the cup becomes devalued with the lack of big names? (assuming more pull out this year) and when is that point? 0 Quote
wow-wee Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Arthurlie1981 said: Serious question, is there a point where the cup becomes devalued with the lack of big names? (assuming more pull out this year) and when is that point? For me it's already at that point once the East teams left it was devalued then it's the prize money that's keeping it afloat . 4 Quote
FairWeatherFan Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Arthurlie1981 said: Serious question, is there a point where the cup becomes devalued with the lack of big names? (assuming more pull out this year) and when is that point? When they can no longer pay the kind of money they do. The SCC, the smaller cups you don't really get anything. £5k for a semi and the extra £12k for making a final is hard to pass up. More bigger names that drop out the easier it is to get there. 0 Quote
South_Pride Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) Genuine question for any Talbot fans. The tournaments, by far, most successful club. Do you class the 2022 win as the same achievement as say 1986, 2013 or even 2018? Edited June 14, 2022 by South_Pride 1 Quote
energyzone Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 Where is the money coming from? Does this year's payments to Talbot and Yoker include the prize money which was supposed to have been paid last season?The WOSFL Twitter account posting about it being a nice lift for the clubs involved was completely tinpot. 1 Quote
Wile E Coyote Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, South_Pride said: Genuine question for any Talbot fans. The tournaments, by far, most successful club. Do you class the 2022 win as the same achievement as say 1986, 2013 or even 2018? No but I still class it better than our SCC win this year 5 Quote
Bestsinceslicebread Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Wile E Coyote said: No but I still class it better than our SCC win this year Being honest, I wouldn't expect any Auchinleck fan not to think that, don't know if I'm speaking out of turn but most outside not interested. The Scottish junior cup for season 21/22 has 110 teams, the South Challenge cup had 161 teams, and the cup had top quality opposition. This coming season, The South challenge cup will become bigger with more entrants and possibility the junior cup will have less participating this year, (possible a chance of having more),and yeah, I think most Auchinleck fans will think the junior cup is better, i do admit that does make me have a little giggle Edited June 14, 2022 by Bestsinceslicebread 0 Quote
Wile E Coyote Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 Just now, Bestsinceslicebread said: Being honest, I wouldn't expect any Auchinleck fan not to think that, don't know if I'm speaking out of turn but most not interested. The Scottish junior cup for season 21/22 has 100 teams, the South Challenge cup had 161 teams, and the cup had top quality opposition. This coming season, The South challenge cup will become bigger with more entrants and possibility the junior cup will have less participating this year, (possible a chance of having more),and yeah, I think most Auchinleck fans will think the junior cup is better, i do admit that does make me have a little giggle The people have spoken- The Junior Cup had 4 times the attendence, 17k to the finalists and live TV coverage. I keep reading about the Juniors being backward bt the SCC is run like the old south qualifying cup where you got 2 men and a dug for a crowd. Talbot actually lost money playing in that final as they had to hire a bus. They got zero prize money and zero gate money 7 Quote
Bestsinceslicebread Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) On 14/06/2022 at 20:41, Wile E Coyote said: The people have spoken- The Junior Cup had 4 times the attendence, 17k to the finalists and live TV coverage. I keep reading about the Juniors being backward bt the SCC is run like the old south qualifying cup where you got 2 men and a dug for a crowd. Talbot actually lost money playing in that final as they had to hire a bus. They got zero prize money and zero gate money ffs the SJFA folded the leagues, they didn't want to join the lowland league previous where they would have had a little percentage in the power struggles but they didn't. Work that out The people of Auchinleck have spoken, (and good on them), not the nation. Back it up whatever way you want. Last year was a brand new season with tons of brand new leagues and new cups. The problem was a league of 20 in the premier which had a few consequences. With the leagues settling down to the right sizes all the cups can be worked out and played out as a normal season within the timefrmes, hopefully. Everything is changing for the better. Scottish football has a working pyramid system but there's bottlenecks at the SPFL2 and the LL that I'm sure will eventually be addressed and sorted out, speeding up the movement for everyone. You keep your views and never change them. I believe there is a small appetite for a national cup and expect it to get bigger and expect it to have nothing to do with the junior cup because all the teams in the national non league cup will be senior members and if that does happen, the fall guys will be the junior cup and will not be given any dates to play their games because the national cup will take its place.. For a guy who played junior football all his days and have some great memories at that level but its near enough finished and believe it or not unfortunately its nearly a FACT Edited June 20, 2022 by Bestsinceslicebread Spelling and more detail 0 Quote
geo87 Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 ffs they folded the leagues, they didn't want to join the lowland league previous where they would have had a little percentage in the power struggles but they didn't, work that out The people of Auchinleck have spoken, (and good on them), not the nation. Back it up whatever way you want. Last year was a brand new season with tons of brand new leagues and new cups the problem was a league of 20 in the premier which had a few consequences. With the leagues settling down to the right sizes all the cups can be worked out and played out, hopefully. Everything is changing for the better. You keep your views and never change them. I believe there is a small apatite for a national cup and expect it to get bigger and expect it to have nothing to do with the junior cup because all the teams in the national non league cup will be senior members and if that does happen, the fall guys will be the junior cup and will not be given any dates to play their games because the national cup will take its place.. For a guy who played junior football all his days and have some great memories at that level but its near enough finished and believe it or not unfortunately its nearly a FACTOut of interest, why did you write fact in capital letters? 4 Quote
andy25 Posted June 15, 2022 Posted June 15, 2022 Rutherglen Glencairn have reapplied to join. 1 Quote
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