Manwithnoball Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I think by appointing Bartley it tells us we are going to be staying full time next year as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipmat Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Manwithnoball said: We only a couple of these players in contract next year. P McKay Ian Wilson and Gavin Reilly are the only players I can think are contracted to next year. Cowie, East, Todd, Wilson, McGrory, Connelly, Paton, Gibson, Although I would expect Paton to definitely move and young Gibson will be hot property I would imagine. All the young lads would benefit from loan moves to play regularly as well as playing for the reserves. Gibson is contracted for next year so if he moves on we should at least get a decent fee for him. Of the young lads Johnstone & Burns also have another year on their contracts. Unfortunately I can't see either Reilly or Paul McKay moving on unless we sever their deals in the summer. I agree with your list and would definitely hang on to Muir as swell. Contrary to most fans (I'm guessing), I'd swither about keeping the enigmatic Cochrane given that Wilson, Todd and McGrory are all prone to picking up injuries. Cochrane is also made of glass and often an empty shirt but every now and then he puts in a potential MOTM performace so may be worth keeping as back-up. Maybe Bartley can get some consistency out of him. Edited January 8, 2023 by Slipmat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 46 minutes ago, Manwithnoball said: I think by appointing Bartley it tells us we are going to be staying full time next year as well. I don't think there was ever any serious doubt about that, particularly after drawing Rangers in the cup earlier this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_palmy_pie Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 6 minutes ago, Slipmat said: Gibson is contracted for next year so if he moves on we should at least get a decent fee for him. Of the young lads Johnstone & Burns also have another year on their contracts. Unfortunately I can't see either Reilly or Paul McKay moving on unless we sever their deals in the summer. I agree with your list and would definitely hang on to Muir as swell. Contrary to most fans (I'm guessing), I'd swither about keeping Cochrane given that Wilson, Todd and McGrory are all prone to picking up injuries. Cochrane is also made of glass and often an empty shirt but every now and then he puts in a potential MOTM performace so may be worth keeping as back-up. Maybe Bartley can get some consistency out of him. Few of the players are low on confidence but I think Marvin will get the best out of them again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_palmy_pie Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Skyline Drifter said: I don't think there was ever any serious doubt about that, particularly after drawing Rangers in the cup earlier this season. When are the accounts due out ? Isn’t it usually about this time of year ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rouky Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Why was't Gibson kept on as a player? He was the best defender we had. The following statement suggests his results as manager were not good enough. Chairman, Billy Hewitson said “There is no doubt that Wullie is Queen of the South through and through and wants the best for the club. He is a young manager who deserved the opportunity, but football is a results-based business, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rouky said: Why was't Gibson kept on as a player? He was the best defender we had. The following statement suggests his results as manager were not good enough. Chairman, Billy Hewitson said “There is no doubt that Wullie is Queen of the South through and through and wants the best for the club. He is a young manager who deserved the opportunity, but football is a results-based business, That's not remotely realistic in any real world scenario. No manager wants to work with his predecessor as a player. No former manager wants to have to step backwards and work for someone else having been in charge and it's very difficult for the other players to go from treating someone as a gaffer to being a team-mate again. I may be wrong but I can't think of a single example of a player manager departing the manager role and returning to just playing for the same club (as in a permanent manager, not a short term caretaker). If it's ever happened it's certainly very unusual. There was talk of George Rowe returning to playing when he left his manager role and he did do a week or two of pre-season under John Connolly but he soon moved on to Arbroath. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, the_palmy_pie said: When are the accounts due out ? Isn’t it usually about this time of year ? Soon. Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 32 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: I may be wrong but I can't think of a single example of a player manager departing the manager role and returning to just playing for the same club (as in a permanent manager, not a short term caretaker). If it's ever happened it's certainly very unusual. I've got in my head that Tommy Bryce might have done that briefly at Partick Thistle. I'm quite possibly havering though. I often am. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Bartley at training this morning hopefully he can make a quick impact on the team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Rouky said: Why was't Gibson kept on as a player? He was the best defender we had. The following statement suggests his results as manager were not good enough. Chairman, Billy Hewitson said “There is no doubt that Wullie is Queen of the South through and through and wants the best for the club. He is a young manager who deserved the opportunity, but football is a results-based business, He was clearly sacked because of his off field antics. I expect the Club have been generous with him in that statement possibly because he's came up through our ranks and has history with us. But lets not kid on it was because of the results. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwithnoball Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Gibson is only contracted till May 2023 but will still be due training compensation for him. As is Johnstone and McMahon, Muir and Irving. Edited January 8, 2023 by Manwithnoball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: He was clearly sacked because of his off field antics. I expect the Club have been generous with him in that statement possibly because he's came up through our ranks and has history with us. But lets not kid on it was because of the results. I don't know if it was generosity, or legal concerns that prevented the other business being mentioned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't know if it was generosity, or legal concerns that prevented the other business being mentioned. Aye that as well I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just browsing this thread what was the other antics? Is Gibson going to continue playing for anyone else? Was a very good player in his short stint with us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QoS99 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Neilly said: Just browsing this thread what was the other antics? Is Gibson going to continue playing for anyone else? Was a very good player in his short stint with us. No will imagine that will be him done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneeuq Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: The gap between FT and PT sides is and has been minimal for years. It's really not like it was when we were PT. There used to be a large gap with fitness but no longer the case, esp with Queens who I always feel start to run out of puff after 80 mins and often look less fit than the part time teams. Not sure if its players, training, fitness coach. Feel the defenders really need to pull the socks up or there careers will be over. Can’t see any of them staying on and would be surprised if any other full time teams, or even PT teams would be that impressed with their performance this year. Probably will find their level at some pub league side. Harsh i know but not sure if there are actually any worse defenders in any of the 4 Scottish leagues at the moment. Who knows if Marvin will be able to turn them around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 34 minutes ago, Manwithnoball said: Gibson is only contracted till May 2023 but will still be due training compensation for him. As is Johnstone and McMahon, Muir and Irving. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Age is against WG's playing days continuing now. After this season he could conceivably get another season at L2 level or non-league but the curtains coming down soon. Shame in many ways but time is nobody's friend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: Age is against WG's playing days continuing now. After this season he could conceivably get another season at L2 level or non-league but the curtains coming down soon. Shame in many ways but time is nobody's friend. Expect him to sign for another club very soon. Sure he'll be weighing up his options just now. Edited January 8, 2023 by SUPERSOUTH 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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