QoS vs Clyde

[Distant Doonhamer]

1 minute ago, SLClyde said:

Not to rub salt into the wounds but that’s the first time we’ve scored 4 away from home since March 2016, and that was away to East Stirling. 

Wound duly salted. 

[Guest Flash]

7 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

Lol wut? Delusional to think we have a chance of promotion? Have you had a look around the division?

As I have said, Clyde thoroughly deserved their win today and were comfortably the better side but I think you need to settle down a wee bit. We still have a squad capable of challenging at the top end. Josh Todd, Iain Wilson, Gavin Reilly (and to a lesser extent Euan East) are players who never started today who will be key players for us when they're up to speed. 4 players that would comfortably find a job in the league above as well. We clearly have a problem with depth but if we can get our players up to speed before a side runs away with the division then I expect we'll still be challenging come the end of the season.

As bad as that was from a QoS perspective today I don't think one result has "confirmed" we won't be up at the top end of the table come May. I'll hold off until we've at least played everyone before I start panicking.

 

The trouble with the players coming back in is that I don’t think any of them will improve the defence enough to make any significant difference. That’s 9 goals conceded in 3 home games this season. I only saw some highlights of the Ayr game and it looked like they should have scored at least a couple. The defence doesn’t look even League 1 standard to me.
Todd and Wilson playing might at least mean the defence has less to do. But, I genuinely don’t think it will be enough.  Obviously it is only day 1 but I can’t see a team with that defence finishing in the top 4. As you say, we’ll need to wait and see. 

[bullyweehutch]

To put last season away form into context.
We drew 7 times and won once away from home in the league....we lost every other fucking game.
10 points away from home all season.

Immense from the team to go to a full time outfit away from home and not only take 3 points but sweep them off the park.

[par-adise]

2 hours ago, SLClyde said:

A lot of pish about vaccines during the lockdowns and another lot of pish about the recent heatwave. 

Evidence for the uninitiated please?

[MS RR]

26 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

 

 

Lol wut? Delusional to think we have a chance of promotion? Have you had a look around the division?

As I have said, Clyde thoroughly deserved their win today and were comfortably the better side but I think you need to settle down a wee bit. We still have a squad capable of challenging at the top end. Josh Todd, Iain Wilson, Gavin Reilly (and to a lesser extent Euan East) are players who never started today who will be key players for us when they're up to speed. 4 players that would comfortably find a job in the league above as well. We clearly have a problem with depth but if we can get our players up to speed before a side runs away with the division then I expect we'll still be challenging come the end of the season.

As bad as that was from a QoS perspective today I don't think one result has "confirmed" we won't be up at the top end of the table come May. I'll hold off until we've at least played everyone before I start panicking.

 

You’re delusional as well as obsessed, QoS will certainly not finish in the top four let alone challenge for the title . 
You’re in for a serious reality check this season. 

[Distant Doonhamer]

1 hour ago, Flash said:

The trouble with the players coming back in is that I don’t think any of them will improve the defence enough to make any significant difference. That’s 9 goals conceded in 3 home games this season. I only saw some highlights of the Ayr game and it looked like they should have scored at least a couple. The defence doesn’t look even League 1 standard to me.
Todd and Wilson playing might at least mean the defence has less to do. But, I genuinely don’t think it will be enough.  Obviously it is only day 1 but I can’t see a team with that defence finishing in the top 4. As you say, we’ll need to wait and see. 

Yep I'd agree with that. We were awful defensively against Ayr. We won 3-0 in a match that could easily have been 4-4.

The clean sheet was largely due to some awful Ayr finishing and a big slice of luck.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Distant Doonhamer

[19QOS19]

You’re delusional as well as obsessed, QoS will certainly not finish in the top four let alone challenge for the title [emoji1787]. 
You’re in for a serious reality check this season. 

Should you not be away celebrating your draw with Montrose/defeat to Cove, you utter weapon?

[Replays]

51 minutes ago, David W said:

This will be too long but in fairness it's been ages since a match that enjoyable. The 3-2 pre-pandemic against Falkirk maybe?

Since the Hibs game, every goal we've conceded has been an absolute nightmare defensively. There's always going to be an element of "could have done better" when a goal is lost but given that as the away side we'd want to keep it tight early on, we had an absolute stinker. Ball was played back from kick-off by QotS then played forward, Duthie for some reason planted an awful header back behind our backline (you would always play forward at that stage of the game) and P. Grant didn't deal with it at all. The ball was cut-back and Connolly's shot deflected past Parry.

Whilst a 4-1 score-line was undeniably a fair reflection on the match, there were two key moments that could have swung it in the opposite direction (one very obvious later on). Shortly after the opener, Queens also found themselves through on goal and although Paton was smart enough to take the ball past Parry (how many strikers has he denied one-on-one since signing?), he was held up enough for McLean to get back and block.

After that, we settled down into the pattern of the rest of the half, probably aided by Hendji's withdrawal. He looked injured at half-time but he was absolutely dreadful in the first 10 minutes, he just isn't good enough on the ball for this level. Kennedy the surprise introduction in his place. We were able to press all over the pitch and Grant/Gomis totally dominated the middle of the pitch. QotS clearly didn't have a clue how to deal with a pair of strikers who both dropped in deep to link up the play and we regularly found a ton of space in front of their back four.

One real issue for us last season was that despite being a team of slow cloggers we basically didn't score from a set piece the whole campaign. As such, it was remarkable to see us level from a smartly taken corner kick that found McDonald in space inside the box and he planted a first time shot across Currie, who got a hand to it but couldn't keep it out of the net. 

The rest of the half saw us cut Queens open at will and Duthie missed the target completely with only Currie to beat. Cunningham had a couple of chances, Cuddihy a shot saved. In amongst all of that we scored a second goal from a quick counter attack, Duthie skipping past the full-back and sending over a cross that found Cunningham with an empty goal to finish into.

One benefit of the five subs rule (which I hate) is that we can go at it full pelt for an hour then bring some bodies on to freshen things up. There's no doubt that as the match progressed, the fresher Roberts, Allan and Scullion played a key part in keeping us up the pitch. In truth, I couldn't see QotS scoring but they got a penalty kick for a barge in the back of one of their players, possibly from Duthie? It looked a spot-kick to me but Parry pulled off a good save down to his right. It's game one but in the context of the season, that could be a massive moment.

That started a crazy few minutes and we scored a lovely third goal with Duthie/Cunningham linking up to set Allan free for a wee mazy run across the edge of the box, before he placed a shot past Currie. A good thing he did, as he probably should have moved the ball onto Scullion who was initially in a better position. Duthie was then brought down by an awful tackle from Connolly; I'd need to see a replay to see how bad the tackle was itself but the intent was clear. He can't have any complaints. The referee, who had a shocker in the Morton cup game, had a decent game today.

The game was dead but we added a fourth when Grant's devilish free-kick was headed into the net by Cameron (who had been brought on for Duthie out of respect for the tortured QotS right back); another set piece goal!

Queen of the South were absolutely dreadful. I don't think I'll ever be convinced that Max is better than Blair. He was lucky to get away with a blatant shove into the face of Duthie; the referee could easily have given a penalty. Watching him sprint down the tunnel at the end was absolutely amazing. I thought Queens best player was probably Gibson but I also thought we played around him as the sitting midfielder easily.

Clyde's players showed a lot of energy and played some excellent football. The difference from last season is staggering. All of that is built around a strong base given by Parry, the centre halves and Gomis/Grant. After enduring Rumsby for so many years, it makes such a difference having two centre halves that win their headers and don't get caught on their heels when balls comes into the box. McLean has been a tremendous addition so far, you can tell he is organising the entire team. Gomis, in my opinion, was our best player in the cup matches and he was sensational in the first half, no doubt helped by having better footballers around him. Duthie ultimately had a great game but he can also be incredibly frustrating at times; his miss in the first half was awful. It absolutely boggles the mind that we ever played Cunningham out wide as his ability to find wee pockets of space centrally is tremendous. Plenty of positives amongst the rest, but I think it's only fair to highlight Kennedy's performance at left-back. He was physical, aggressive in the challenge and used the ball well. Basically the same as his team-mates.

Thanks David, much obliged.

[Anthony Fitzgerald]

Sure he put one past you the other week. Off you pop.

Had to google this to find out what on earth you were talking about, since we’ve only conceded one goal in 5 games, a penalty against Bonnyrigg. Wrong team.

Nice try though, maybe time for you to log off.

[SLClyde]

27 minutes ago, par-adise said:

Evidence for the uninitiated please?

[19QOS19]

Had to google this to find out what on earth you were talking about, since we’ve only conceded one goal in 5 games, a penalty against Bonnyrigg. Wrong team.

Nice try though, maybe time for you to log off.

Thought you were an Ayr fan. Apologies. Not sure it warrants me needing to log off mind you.

[SLClyde]

How do people survive on holiday absolutely brainless. 

[Karpaty Lviv]

Down in Yorkshire so sadly couldn’t be there. Ducking superb Clyde. Mon the bully.

The Gypsy Army’s back on the road 

[Garrowhillclyde]

1 hour ago, 19QOS19 said:

 

 

Lol wut? Delusional to think we have a chance of promotion? Have you had a look around the division?

As I have said, Clyde thoroughly deserved their win today and were comfortably the better side but I think you need to settle down a wee bit. We still have a squad capable of challenging at the top end. Josh Todd, Iain Wilson, Gavin Reilly (and to a lesser extent Euan East) are players who never started today who will be key players for us when they're up to speed. 4 players that would comfortably find a job in the league above as well. We clearly have a problem with depth but if we can get our players up to speed before a side runs away with the division then I expect we'll still be challenging come the end of the season.

As bad as that was from a QoS perspective today I don't think one result has "confirmed" we won't be up at the top end of the table come May. I'll hold off until we've at least played everyone before I start panicking.

 

Yes. That's correct. Remember, I said challenging for the league, not promotion,

If you make the play offs it will be a achievement. Get ready for the long haul.

 

Edited July 30, 2022 by Garrowhillclyde

[Monkey Tennis]

Couldn't make it along today.

How did we do?

[Garrowhillclyde]

4 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said:

Couldn't make it along today.

How did we do?

League winning material, apparently.

[Monkey Tennis]

2 minutes ago, Garrowhillclyde said:

League winning material, apparently.

Excellent.

3 points in the bag.

[19QOS19]

League winning material, apparently.

We'll see.

[GroundskeeperWillie]

An extremely pleasing three points and performance.  After the game against Morton in the Premier Cup, I felt there was cause for optimism in spite of the grumblings of negativity, and this more than backs that up.

Thought some of our football today was outstanding, a central defence that at times had the cigars out and a midfield with Gomis pulling the strings at times.  It could have obviously been different if we had let the heads drop at losing the goal so early on, but from there on in - particularly first half - we were clearly the better side.

I said it previously, but am becoming more convinced that Olly McDonald has been a very good signing.  His goal was top notch, but his off the ball running and general effort were excellent.  He gave their defence a tough game and again, him in a front two would be ideal going forward.

I've been really impressed with Connor Duthie as well so far, he has a bit of a physical presence as well as some neat footwork and his work for the second goal was brilliant. 

Also, got to say I've a lot of sympathy for Hendjii at left back, looked to be struggling with injury and although it was not his best performance, I think there is something there, my only concern being how one footed he looks (

I was a bit surprised by just how poor Queens were.  They showed next to nothing apart from some long range hopeful efforts and lost the plot rather easily (the Connelly tackle was appalling and rightly he got binned).

Very early days clearly, but a lot to be enthused by - roll on next weekend!

[MS RR]

1 hour ago, 19QOS19 said:

1 hour ago, MS RR said:

You’re delusional as well as obsessed, QoS will certainly not finish in the top four let alone challenge for the title . 
You’re in for a serious reality check this season. 

Should you not be away celebrating your draw with Montrose/defeat to Cove, you utter weapon?

Defeat to cove?