Fratelli Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The bold Jack was on the scoresheet in the Copa Del Rey last weekend, I bet Clarke didn't even know that. Complete negligence from Clarke as usual - typical Scotland. If we were a serious footballing nation we'd be using our limited time together to call up uncapped 26 year olds to get a look at them. Anyway, check out my Twitter account @ScotsAbroadPod 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Italy capped a 16 year old, Simone Pafundi, yesterday who only has one senior club appearance (and youth appearances only up to U17 international level). Not saying we should necessarily replicate it but capping Doak, at this stage, wouldn't be outrageous or unprecedented. Sure the SFA will make the right call either way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 The SFA don't make the calls, Steve Clarke makes the calls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Satoshi said: Italy capped a 16 year old, Simone Pafundi, yesterday who only has one senior club appearance (and youth appearances only up to U17 international level). Not saying we should necessarily replicate it but capping Doak, at this stage, wouldn't be outrageous or unprecedented. Sure the SFA will make the right call either way. As has already been pointed out, he only qualifies for Scotland so there really isn't any rush. He's had one senior game, let him develop and see where he is in a year or two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 37 minutes ago, craigkillie said: The SFA don't make the calls, Steve Clarke makes the calls. I imagine in this situation it would be a discussion within the SFA as to which age group is best for him for his development (and for the development of others in that age group). I would be surprised if Clarke can make such calls in a vacuum without consultation of age group managers. Might be wrong though, I don't know. Would be strange were he to call him up and not play him, rather than have him play a crucial u21 qualifier, for example. 7 minutes ago, The Moonster said: As has already been pointed out, he only qualifies for Scotland so there really isn't any rush. He's had one senior game, let him develop and see where he is in a year or two. Yep, that's a perfectly fair perspective. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Does Steve Clarke strike you as the sort of person who would appreciate being told who he could and couldn't pick? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Does Steve Clarke strike you as the sort of person who would appreciate being told who he could and couldn't pick? Not particularly, but it probably isn't as black and white as you think. Say Steve Clarke hated Billy Stark (they were team mates for a year at St. Mirren), do you think he would be able to call up the entire U19 squad for a senior training camp (or fixture) and force Stark to select a new squad? For players like Doak elligable for a number of squads it would be a discussion within the SFA, if Clarke wanted to select him and not play him, and the U21s had a crucial qualifier that could benefit that whole age group, it's hardly outwith the bounds of possibility that the SFA would want Doak to play in the latter. This certainly doesn't just apply to Scotland, you may think that managers have totally free reign to select whoever they want, but do you really think the England manager could drop Kane for the world cup, or the Brazilian manager drop Neymar? If they make any batshit calls they would be telt I'm sure. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) Just set up a lovely goal for the U21's Edit: Could have easily scored twice so far in the first half Edited November 17, 2022 by Clown Job 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the snudge Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 I don't know if I've seen a Scottish player with so much pace with the ball at their feet than Doak. Hopefully he continues his development and he's not another false dawn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 8 hours ago, Satoshi said: Not particularly, but it probably isn't as black and white as you think. Say Steve Clarke hated Billy Stark (they were team mates for a year at St. Mirren), do you think he would be able to call up the entire U19 squad for a senior training camp (or fixture) and force Stark to select a new squad? For players like Doak elligable for a number of squads it would be a discussion within the SFA, if Clarke wanted to select him and not play him, and the U21s had a crucial qualifier that could benefit that whole age group, it's hardly outwith the bounds of possibility that the SFA would want Doak to play in the latter. This certainly doesn't just apply to Scotland, you may think that managers have totally free reign to select whoever they want, but do you really think the England manager could drop Kane for the world cup, or the Brazilian manager drop Neymar? If they make any batshit calls they would be telt I'm sure. Wish the sfa would stick with 4 at the back going forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 It's hard to not get excited about him. When he receives the ball, you just know he is gonna breeze past his man. Very good in first half, very exciting future 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 17, 2022 Author Share Posted November 17, 2022 He's pish/finished/burger king bound 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Burger King Dor winner imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted November 17, 2022 Share Posted November 17, 2022 Never heard of him, but he better not be a fucking left back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 BBC gossip column so not the most reliable of sources maybe but apparently Nottingham Forest are looking at taking him on loan. Not sure he's ready for premier league football yet but would be quite a rarity for a just turned 17 year old Scottish player to be playing regularly at that sort of level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 Away with Liverpool and he's just set up a goal for Nunes, Liverpool fans are raving about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 I reckon he’s going to be the real deal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Starting for Liverpool at 17, eh? Doak is already ahead of Ronaldo, Mbappe and Messi IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Check Klopps coupon, he knows this kid is fearless and going to be very very special. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 Aye assuming he is going to be in and around the Liverpool first team for the rest of the season, I have seen enough where I would be more than happy (and a little disappointed if he wasn't) for him to be included in the next senior squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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