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The 2023 NFL Draft Thread


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The 2023 NFL Draft will be the 88th annual meeting of National Football League franchises to select newly eligible players. The draft is scheduled to be held in the plaza outside of Union Station in Kansas City, Missouri, on April 27–29, 2023.

The Chicago Bears have the 1st overall pick but could be inundated with offers from QB needy teams. The top QBs include Bryce Young (Alabama), Will Levies (Kentucky) and CJ Stroud (Ohio State). 
 

Miami forfeited its first-round selection as well as its 2024 third-round selection as punishment for multiple violations of the league's anti-tamperingpolicy in conversations with quarterback Tom Brady and Don Yee, the agent for then-New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton (as well as Brady).

 

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24 minutes ago, lichtie23 said:

I fully expect my Giants to go Wide Receiver in the opening round. According to the draft experts this class is full of very talented WRs. 

Which experts? This is one of the poorest wr crops in years. The past few drafts have been abnormally stacked at the position, but even compared to a normal year this cohort is keek. 2 1st round talents, maybe 3 at a push, and even then none of them look like a sure thing or anything better than a mid-round pick.

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4 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said:

Which experts? This is one of the poorest wr crops in years. The past few drafts have been abnormally stacked at the position, but even compared to a normal year this cohort is keek. 2 1st round talents, maybe 3 at a push, and even then none of them look like a sure thing or anything better than a mid-round pick.

Just what Iv been reading online mate. Iv not really kept up with the college game this year so can’t really comment. 
 

Jordan Addison, quentin Johnson,  Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Zay Flowers and Kayshon Boutte seem to be highly touted. 
 

Maybe they meant 1st round talents. The overall class might be poorer

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I think Johnson and Addison are the only two who should really go in the 1st. JSN maybe, but he's really just a slot/WR3 talent. I think he might go in the 1st to a team that is already stacked and looking to add a weapon, but I don't see him as the sort of WR a building team looking to find an offensive centrepiece should be picking up.

The Chargers are one of the teams who could really use a weapon at WR so I've been looking at these guys a lot, and tbqh, I'm not overly impressed with any of them. Again, it's a position that has been unusually deep in the past 2-3 drafts, so these guys are always going to suffer by comparison, but in reality I think any team that really, really wants a WR is going to be in position to get the guy projected to them because I don't see anyone doing anything stupid like trading up to take one in the top 10 and causing a run. 

I suppose if one of them shoots up the boards between now and the draft itself the lack of actual depth might cause a mini-run if somebody does bite on a WR early, but I can't see it. It's a bit of a poor draft cohort overall from what I've seen. No absolute stand-out players really, other than a whole heap of guys who you could see having good but not necessarily legendary careers. Reminds me a lot of 2017-2018 drafts, but there will no doubt be a few surprises in there who perform in the Pros at a level above projection.

As far as LAC goes I think both the potential WR1 talents will be well off the board, and a lot of mocks are suggesting they'll pick up a TE, but I just don't see the value there considering it's already a pass-heavy attack and any improvement at TE would just be fighting for targets with Keenan Allen anyway. The Chargers have real trouble running the ball between the 20's, and rather than take any TE I think Bijan Robinson would add far more to the Chargers O on the whole, so if he is sitting there at #21 I think they have to take him. 

Chargers have roughly 50% of their entire cap invested in seven defensive starters, so it's utterly indefensible that Staley has consistently put out a D that is complete and utter garbage, but the truth is they are woefully short of any depth at DE and LB despite the investment on that side of the ball. The team overall has enough holes that any position other than QB could justifiably be the 1st round pick, and obviously things will likely change depending on which of their own FA's they re-sign or release, but one of the saving graces of this being a bit of a 'meh' pool of players is there isn't really the common problem of teams picking in the lower half of the round being left facing a massive drop-off in talent beyond the top 10 or so, so being able to take BPA might not be a bad thing. I don't believe the Chargers under Telesco have ever put enough stock in drafting trenches talent, and although they've gone OL in the 1st round the past two years they have still only drafted two DL since they took Joey Bosa and it's a glaring weakness on a D that regularly lines up 5 players at the L.O.S.. They really could use another solid pass rusher if one is available at #21, and even if that's a specialist rather than an every down player I think that's still better value in the current NFL than any nickelback, ILB, or OG that you might expect to go at that sort of slot.

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49ers have something like 11 picks, with a few picked up as compensatory picks through coach hires. Nothing higher than 3 picks in the 3rd round at the moment though. Both O and D lines need strengthening as a priority, and also a case of trying to fit a lot of players hitting free agency into the cap space.

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14 minutes ago, Brummie Clyde said:

Be gobsmacked if Da Bears stay put at number 1.

Edge Rusher and Corner seem to be the consensus best position groups in this class and RB is pretty good too.

I'm interested to see what the market for that #1 turns out to be because I'm not convinced by any of the top QB's available, but there are an unusually large pool of teams who could, in theory, be looking to take one of them early, so I think the pick's market will derive from whoever is the most desperate to not be gazzumped by one of the others rather than there being a hot commodity to take #1 overall.

If Carr and Garappolo get signed, Rodgers possibly traded, then that might make things a bit clearer, but it might still come right down to fielding calls while on the clock. Only the Bears themselves will know whether the degree of interest merits doing that.

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Lions have the 6th overall pick courtesy of the Stafford Rams trade. With the rebuild arguably going faster than expected based on last seasons finish will be interesting if the Lions use the pick or trade it to a team earlier on in a rebuild.

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14 hours ago, Boo Khaki said:

I'm interested to see what the market for that #1 turns out to be because I'm not convinced by any of the top QB's available, but there are an unusually large pool of teams who could, in theory, be looking to take one of them early, so I think the pick's market will derive from whoever is the most desperate to not be gazzumped by one of the others rather than there being a hot commodity to take #1 overall.

If Carr and Garappolo get signed, Rodgers possibly traded, then that might make things a bit clearer, but it might still come right down to fielding calls while on the clock. Only the Bears themselves will know whether the degree of interest merits doing that.

I think Bryce Young looks pretty decent, if you're okay about his lack of size. 

Stroud, Levis and Richardson all have their limitations. 

Do think teams may be more desperate than usual, as last year's QB class was so woeful. 

Plus, hopefully we can play divisional rivals; the Colts and Texans off against each other.

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9 hours ago, Grant228 said:

Commanders are in desperate need of a centre, and offensive linemen in general, truthfully I pay absolutely hee haw attention to college football so I have absolutely no idea how the draft is looking for that! 

Centres look decent. OTs look so-so. Maybe less topline talent than last year, but decent depth.

Guards probably the weakest position group out of OLine this year.

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On 13/02/2023 at 14:55, Brummie Clyde said:

Be gobsmacked if Da Bears stay put at number 1.

Edge Rusher and Corner seem to be the consensus best position groups in this class and RB is pretty good too.

Except for the simple fact that year after year we see a properly selected top 5 QB is often critical to a teams chances. You get five years with a first round pick QB before he becomes a pendulous weight around the franchises neck if you resign offer him a new contract. The ones that show ability early shorten the window to three or four years.

Damned if you do, damned if you don’t…sometimes you have to pay your money and take your chances. They did that with Justin Fields and the things he is saying are not what the Bears want to hear…some, don’t like the cold, etc. Perhaps, given the need to get D-line AND O-line help, it’s time to consider drafting another QB 1, pouring the rest into the support structure and get some value for Fields. You delay the rebuild by a year or two, but Fields is looking questionable as the answer, and his development will be slaughtered by the lack of O-line protection.

Send Fields somewhere warm, and get O-line and/or D-line help in return, then use that 1 for the future QB?

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On 14/02/2023 at 22:13, Grant228 said:

Commanders are in desperate need of a centre, and offensive linemen in general, truthfully I pay absolutely hee haw attention to college football so I have absolutely no idea how the draft is looking for that! 

Aye, the sad fact is we have two very good Centres in Chase Roullier and Tyler Larsen but neither can stay fit...

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