Trogdor Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, sophia said: I found this a fairly measured piece from Mandy Rhodes in Holyrood Magazine On the premise that Kate performs as I expect in the debates, there's a few high profile SNP politicians who might have cause to regret their tuning in to the online maelstrom over this week just gone. Thanks for sharing this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Leith Green said: Bookmark this for 18 months when the UK govt introduces the same. Will you still me mewling then or is that "ok"? I think the argument is that Scottish Government were rushing it to be "first". Despite almost every type of business saying it was going to cost them money and they weren't ready for August. I think it would be more sensible to take the time and get it right. Could even consider joining England, Wales & Northern Ireland in launching a UK wide scheme in 2024. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 9 hours ago, Savage Henry said: Take a step back and consider that the next First Minister will be one of Hamza or Regan - Forbes is done, but even if she wasn’t, she’s no better. You keep stating this, yet there's zero evidence to support your claim. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 7 hours ago, welshbairn said: Unless her purpose was to swing the party to the socially conservative right and alienate liberals and progressives, she's been astonishingly politically inept. Much of the SNP's electoral success has been from poaching the latter from Labour and the Lib Dems, I doubt there are enough Alba types and swing Tories to compensate for their loss. Progressives in what way? The main constituency of Scottish political parties in the Central Belt are relatively progressive in terms of socioeconomic issues - at least until they're asked to pay for the costs of redistribution. There's little evidence to suggest that they're 'progressive' on liberal identity issues that make f**k all difference to the lives of the vast majority of the country. They might tolerate a progressive push by a government but that's not the same as changing their vote on those views. And of course, the blame for a falling vote share can rest just as much on the completely avoidable shambles of the GRR and Sturgeon's response to it. As well as the swirling accusations around the baldy clown who seems to be using Yousaf as a sock puppet candidate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Savage Henry said: Kate Forbes, the unrepentant neo-fascist’s choice. Needless to say, she isn’t being vilified “for her religion”, she’s being criticised for her prejudice and ultra conservative ethics. Are you just aiming for hyperbole? If you're seeking to make a serious point that isn't simply repetition, don't you think that's a bit strong? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Endorsements for Forbes from known vexatious bullshit artists such as JRM and the UK's media class need to be taken with a large pinch of salt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 2 hours ago, GNU_Linux said: The endorsement they all wanted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Iain said: The endorsement they all wanted The article was probably written by his butler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Hustings incoming.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Hustings incoming.. f**k the SNP and their anti-Falkirk bias. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Friday wrongly listed as the 4th. Sturgeon must go. I'm very surprised to see events on the Sabbath. Forbes must go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 You need to apply for a ticket and bring your membership card with you. I didn't know I was given one, probably threw it out for recycling. I've asked for a new one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Nothing in the SNP stronghold of Dundee is a bit of a surprise there tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 36 minutes ago, scottsdad said: f**k the SNP and their anti-Falkirk bias. 3 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Nothing in the SNP stronghold of Dundee is a bit of a surprise there tbh. The last date on that list is March 12th, the vote doesn't end till the 27th, so it might just be the early dates that have been announced. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: Nothing in the SNP stronghold of Dundee is a bit of a surprise there tbh. Yeah, the closest for them is probably Glenrothes. Hardly ideal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Few questions. Who gets a vote and is it one person one vote? Basically do MPs/MSPs get more say then ordinary members of the party? And who is in charge of the counting? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: Few questions. Who gets a vote and is it one person one vote? Basically do MPs/MSPs get more say then ordinary members of the party? And who is in charge of the counting? SNP members get a vote. It is one vote per member but it is a transferable vote. You rank the candidates by preference and if your 1st preference is eliminated it goes to your 2nd preference until a winner has more than 50% of the valid votes. Edit - valid votes is important because if you voted (as an example) Regan 1 and no-one else and Regan had the least number of votes on the first ballot your vote wouldn't be transferred and would be discounted in the second round (ie. not counted for the 50% threshold). MPs/MSPs are the same as ordinary members. They each hold one vote. In terms of who is in charge of the counting. I'm not 100% sure. I'm not actually a party member. Edited February 27, 2023 by Trogdor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dink Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 It's 1 member 1 vote, with a single transferable vote system. MPs and MSPs get 1 vote, same as all other members. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Trogdor said: SNP members get a vote. It is one vote per member but it is a transferable vote. You rank the candidates by preference and if your 1st preference is eliminated it goes to your 2nd preference until a winner has more than 50% of the votes. MPs/MSPs are the same as ordinary members. They each hold one vote. In terms of who is in charge of the counting. I'm not 100% sure. I'm not actually a party member. I'm no longer a member but previous votes were done online. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: And who is in charge of the counting? The National Secretary, Lorna Finn. P.S. Quote The National Secretary is responsible for engaging a ballot services company to administer the poll, including the issuing and receipt of postal ballot papers, entering data in relation to postal ballot papers, and the electronic count. https://documents.snp.org/2023_02_16_Party_Leader_Election_Rules_2023.pdf Edited February 27, 2023 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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