Next permanent Scotland manager

[moses1924]

15 hours ago, ICTChris said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/jason-leitch-says-kate-forbes-29544962
 

lol 

Mon the AIrdrie

[wirez]

2 hours ago, virginton said:

So the party with 64 seats in Scotland's parliament - one short of an outright majority - must be 'committed to cooperation' or else. While a party with *checks notes* 7 seats thinks that it can slap down no fewer than four different 'non-negotiables'. So cooperation for thee but not for me, as decreed by Lorna Slater, Minister for demented bottle taxes. 

They should be huckled out the door within 0.3 milliseconds of the leadership result being announced, regardless of who wins. 

These moonhowlers need booted post haste.

There will always be their tiny noisy core support, whining about pish naebody is interested in. Surprisingly enough...it will have f**k all to do with the environment.

They suddenly preach hard for independence when there is an election. No interest otherwise but for votes.

Get them tae f**k

[Trogdor]

I am sceptical about how wedded the Greens are to independence tbh. I think there is a degree of opportunism on their part. They'd have no seats if they didn't support it as all those list votes from SNP constituency voters would disappear.

It's time they were brought to heel. A confidence and supply deal at most and they'll like it.

[Leith Green]

8 hours ago, Trogdor said:

They'd have no seats if they didn't support it as all those list votes from SNP constituency voters would disappear.

I understand your point, but its unlikely they get zero seats.

There are lots of people - even SNP voters - who want some green representation, regardless of their stance on Independence.

[Trogdor]

1 minute ago, Leith Green said:

I understand your point, but its unlikely they get zero seats.

There are lots of people - even SNP voters - who want some green representation, regardless of their stance on Independence.

Aye, no seats is a bit extreme on my part. Maybe 2 or 3 seats. 

There will be those who vote Green for Green issues but its not going to be huge. If you look at the 2021 Scottish elections:

The number of votes for the SNP drops by circa 200k from the constituency to the regional list. There are only 2 likely places that vote goes:

Alba - 45k votes (let's assume they are all from the SNP, that leaves 155k regional votes from the SNP constituency vote)

Green - 220k votes (of which let's assume the residual 155k comes from the SNP). If you stripped these out the Greens would have 65k votes on the list which is 2 or 3 seats (depending where those votes are).

Ultimately, the Greens benefit significantly from their association with the SNP. They need to remember that and making demands/ultimatums publicly in the manner they are is not sensible. Especially given the SNP can govern without them. They have very little leverage.

[ScotiaNostra]

9 hours ago, Trogdor said:

I am sceptical about how wedded the Greens are to independence tbh. I think there is a degree of opportunism on their part. They'd have no seats if they didn't support it as all those list votes from SNP constituency voters would disappear.

It's time they were brought to heel. A confidence and supply deal at most and they'll like it.

How much Green Environmental policies have been implemented since Greens joined the SG? 

[welshbairn]

Finally voted Forbes 1, Yusaf 2. Just figured that Yusaf means inevitable gradual decline with the same old that has stagnated at 45-50% Yes, and few ideas of how to improve powers and performance under devolution apart from tinkering at the edges. Forbes will either crash and burn which would probably mean a new leader after the Westminster election, or there's a small chance she might reenergise the party through changing focus and hopefully she'd be forced to stay well clear of social issues and allow others to deal with that side of policy.

Edited March 26, 2023 by welshbairn

[welshbairn]

10 minutes ago, orfc said:

Call me Mr Logic, but is there a point putting a second pref if your first choice isn't Regan? She's the only one likely to finish last in the first pref count

Just in case they do a full account of the votes so Regan knows exactly where she is in the pecking order.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

2 hours ago, Leith Green said:

I understand your point, but its unlikely they get zero seats.

There are lots of people - even SNP voters - who want some green representation, regardless of their stance on Independence.

The greens are a shower of complete lunatics, the things being proposed by the green councillors in Glasgow are utter madness, 30mph speed limit on the M8 being just one example. Then the supposed government ministers implementing a complete failure of a bottle deposit scheme which will put prices up for people at point of purchase at a time when everyones wages are stagnant and prices are soaring. Absolute madness and time they were patted on the head and put out to pasture. 

[Trogdor]

What time is the result announced tomorrow?

[budmiester1]

4 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

The greens are a shower of complete lunatics, the things being proposed by the green councillors in Glasgow are utter madness, 30mph speed limit on the M8 being just one example. Then the supposed government ministers implementing a complete failure of a bottle deposit scheme which will put prices up for people at point of purchase at a time when everyones wages are stagnant and prices are soaring. Absolute madness and time they were patted on the head and put out to pasture. 

The Greens M8 policy shows that they have absolutely no idea of environmental issues or how things actually work. Cars are most environmentally “friendly “ when they are moving in higher gear, so driving at 30 mph is not a good idea for the environment. To me it’s more a control thing, their answer to everything is “don’t do it “ No travelling, no holidays, work close to home, don’t eat anything from abroad, it’s all “don’t “

[welshbairn]

3 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

What time is the result announced tomorrow?

BBC1 results show starts at 1.45 pm.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

Aye I'm very much now in the "fire the Greens into the fucking sun" camp. 

[Suspect Device]

2 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said:

Aye I'm very much now in the "fire the Greens into the fucking sun" camp. 

That would probably speed up global warming.

[Benjamin_Nevis]

9 minutes ago, Suspect Device said:

That would probably speed up global warming.

Price worth paying imo

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

16 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said:

Aye I'm very much now in the "fire the Greens into the fucking sun" camp. 

But if you fire something as dense as a scottish green party politician into the sun do you not risk turning it into a black hole?

[Blue Brazil Forever]

1 hour ago, welshbairn said:

BBC1 results show starts at 1.45 pm.

I understand the results are due around 2 PM at Murrayfield.

[ScotiaNostra]

I fancy a bet but whats odds Humza wins and hes resigned before 2023 finishes?

[Boo Khaki]

Suppose I had better vote then.

[Highland Capital]

25 minutes ago, ScotiaNostra said:

I fancy a bet but whats odds Humza wins and hes resigned before 2023 finishes?

With Sturgeon back in?  I can imagine her being leader again by the time of the next Scottish election actually.