House Bartender Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Pete the Jakey said: Yellow every day of the week. 'Fraid that makes 7 yellows = 3.5 reds, but still worth the appeal. These circular debates rang throughout P&B before VAR and it's introduction has just added a new extra-ref level. Good try though Pete. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Flatulent Gannet said: Surely appealing the Red Card is an exercise in futility ?. A successful appeal would be tantamount to saying VAR is a pile if sh1te, and they ain’t going to say that. They did for Tony Watt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatulent Gannet Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Archie McSquackle said: They did for Tony Watt. I don’t know the circumstances, but was that a straight red from the ref, or did VAR say it was a red ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 04/03/2023 at 17:03, Al B said: See if you'd said "a nothing challenge" that's one thing, but you've given away your true feelings on it by calling it "a nothing foul". A nothing foul is still a foul I called it a 'foul' because, you know, the referee gave a foul. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Flatulent Gannet said: I don’t know the circumstances, but was that a straight red from the ref, or did VAR say it was a red ? VAR but it was a deserved red if you looked at the correct camera angle. The overturning was bizarre. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 The ref didn't actually give a foul at the time but sent Watt off after VAR stepped in. It was then reduced to a yellow on appeal so, yes, they were prepared to say they got it wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Jakey Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 On 06/03/2023 at 16:24, Savage Henry said: Well, County agree with you and have appealed. I’m not convinced at all, but we’ve seen patently clear red cards successfully overturned, so who knows? Appeal rejected, 3 game ban stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pete the Jakey said: Appeal rejected, 3 game ban stands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, Pete the Jakey said: Appeal rejected, 3 game ban stands. Not to once again lift the lid on this, but the difference between that and Ricky Little's overturned one is... not huge?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: Not to once again lift the lid on this, but the difference between that and Ricky Little's overturned one is... not huge?! The difference is probably a couple of yards tbh. O'Brien is actually goal side of the incident whereas Randall was a couple of yards behind in Baldwin's case. You could legitimately argue there's a covering defender whereas in County's case you couldn't. Edited March 8, 2023 by capt_oats 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Jakey Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Pete the Jakey said: Fucking hell. Maybe try it when Baldwin puts the challenge in not when Van Veen's been cleaned out and face first on the deck. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiochas III Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, Pete the Jakey said: He's already on the ground in that shot. Of course he's gained yardage 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Jakey Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, capt_oats said: Fucking hell. Maybe try it when Baldwin puts the challenge in not when Van Veen's been cleaned out and face first on the deck. Knew you'd like that! You've forgotten that Randall runs at 100mph mate. Edited March 8, 2023 by Pete the Jakey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staggie52 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 We can discuss whether or not he was denied an obvious goal scoring opportunity or not, there is no clear criteria to make decision making clear, it remains the judgement of the referee. What concerns me, is that I can’t see that VAR adds anything to what the referee saw and yet he changed his mind. In the penalty call he was alerted to the County player being the first to pull a jersey. That was additional information and to me, is what VAR is for. The red card decision is a third party trying to influence the referee’s opinion and replace it with their own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Pete the Jakey said: Knew you'd like that! You've forgotten that Randall runs at 100mph mate. Take your medicine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, Staggie52 said: What concerns me, is that I can’t see that VAR adds anything to what the referee saw and yet he changed his mind 1 hour ago, capt_oats said: He gets alerted that this may warrant a red rather than a yellow. He checks it. He makes a decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swello Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Pete the Jakey said: I enjoy that even though this is paused about 5 minutes after the initial challenge, the covering defender still isn't past KVV 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Swello said: I enjoy that even though this is paused about 5 minutes after the initial challenge, the covering defender still isn't past KVV That shows the value of diving for the line in a foot race 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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