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St Johnstone vs Hibernian, Saturday 22 April, 2023


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4 minutes ago, The Saintee said:

There just needs to be more training for those involved so they become competent at it.

 

I’m sure the champions league and World Cup referees get plenty training but still manage to f**k it up every week.

Referees will always make mistakes just like players do, nothing can ever make me understand why people wanted to take away the spontaneity and excitement of scoring goals for this.

On the incident itself I’m not even that arsed, hopefully Jeggo gets a ban extension for a frivolous appeal purely because he’s shit and I don’t want to watch him play next week, what I am arsed about is how football is substantially worse due to VAR being part of the game.

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Just now, Les Cabbage said:

I’m sure the champions league and World Cup referees get plenty training but still manage to f**k it up every week.

Referees will always make mistakes just like players do, nothing can ever make me understand why people wanted to take away the spontaneity and excitement of scoring goals for this.

On the incident itself I’m not even that arsed, hopefully Jeggo gets a ban extension for a frivolous appeal purely because he’s shit and I don’t want to watch him play next week, what I am arsed about is how football is substantially worse due to VAR being part of the game.

They're not "mistakes". VAR proves that they're not "mistakes".

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10 minutes ago, Les Cabbage said:

If you’re suggesting there’s a conspirator agenda against Hibs then I would simply suggest you log off and have a lie down sir.

I like to think that this wasn't so much an instance of The Global Illuminati Conspiracy To Suppress All Things Hibernian, so much as that Craig Napier was balls deep in gambling/drugs debt to some of David Martindale's gangster mates, and he was calling in some favours in a vital league game. Unfortunately for Livi, Martindale's underworld connections can only do so much on an average SPFL matchday.

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16 minutes ago, Les Cabbage said:

If you’re suggesting there’s a conspirator agenda against Hibs then I would simply suggest you log off and have a lie down sir.

Aye, great response from someone who refuses to follow through on the logic. If they were simply "mistakes", the VAR assistant would inform the referee that he's made a "mistake" and that "mistake" would then be overturned. That's the whole point of VAR.

The reason this isn't happening isn't due to some technical failure with the VAR itself, but due to actual people standing by their wrong decisions, even after the technology clearly shows them that they were wrong.

Which can only indicate cheating.

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1 hour ago, StellarHibee said:

Ex-ref but still very much 'present day p***k' Stuart Dougal refers to Jeggo's clean take of the ball as a "lunge" and backs the refs decision. 😂
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/65372545

Well so much for our appeal. Arseholes.

He said the same thing about Nicky Clark’s red card that was overturned. He is a fucking idiot.

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32 minutes ago, StellarHibee said:

Which can only indicate cheating.

When there is flagrant incompetence splashed everywhere for literally everyone to see, this take is proper clown shoes material. 

There is no cheating conspiracy against Hibs. The obvious and blatant truth is that the few people who haven't been hounded out of refereeing by toxic behaviour prior to making it to the SPL stable are absolute idiots. That's genuinely all there is to it. 

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I mean, Douglas Ross is the supposed leader of a political party in Scotland yet most weekends he's happy to dress up in a wee shiny outfit and run up and down a line with a cute little flag in front of hundreds of folk abusing him. 

And he's old enough now and been linesmanning long enough now that he can't be doing it to become a referee, because surely that ship's sailed. 

So there's only one justification for behaviour like that. 

Clown

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46 minutes ago, FrankChickens1 said:

I mean, Douglas Ross is the supposed leader of a political party in Scotland yet most weekends he's happy to dress up in a wee shiny outfit and run up and down a line with a cute little flag in front of hundreds of folk abusing him. 

And he's old enough now and been linesmanning long enough now that he can't be doing it to become a referee, because surely that ship's sailed. 

So there's only one justification for behaviour like that. 

Clown

A number of years ago he became a Specialist assistant referee or whatever they call it. 

Don't know that much about it but it basically meant he was focusing on only being an assistant and wasn't trying to become a referee. 

It's not really something you serve your time as an apprentice and then get promoted to potentially being the referee I don't think. 

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I dont think there is any conspiracy against Hibs either, that one on Saturday was just a hopeless decision by a hopeless ref.

There are two teams who do appear to get the rub of the green more often than not, and as I mentioned on the Dons v Sevco thread, it does seem almost inconceivable that Rangers have not had a penalty awarded against them for 51 consecutive league games !

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1 hour ago, SJFCtheTeamForMe said:

A number of years ago he became a Specialist assistant referee or whatever they call it. 

Don't know that much about it but it basically meant he was focusing on only being an assistant and wasn't trying to become a referee. 

It's not really something you serve your time as an apprentice and then get promoted to potentially being the referee I don't think. 

Did a refereeing course when I was at school (was either that or arty stuff) and if I remember rightly you get to a certain point then the roads split, so you’re either a referee or a linesman. 

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2 hours ago, Leith Green said:

I dont think there is any conspiracy against Hibs either, that one on Saturday was just a hopeless decision by a hopeless ref.

There are two teams who do appear to get the rub of the green more often than not, and as I mentioned on the Dons v Sevco thread, it does seem almost inconceivable that Rangers have not had a penalty awarded against them for 51 consecutive league games !

109 penalties awarded in that time, 0 against them.

Just to clarify, I never said there was a "conspiracy against Hibs". But if as you say 2 clubs are getting the rub of the green more often than not, then that means 10 other clubs in the league are ultimately being cheated.

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52 minutes ago, StellarHibee said:

109 penalties awarded in that time, 0 against them.

Just to clarify, I never said there was a "conspiracy against Hibs". But if as you say 2 clubs are getting the rub of the green more often than not, then that means 10 other clubs in the league are ultimately being cheated.

You were playing ST Johnstone. Hardly the establishment lapdogs.

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16 minutes ago, Crùbag said:

You were playing ST Johnstone. Hardly the establishment lapdogs.

That's if you assume that the decision was for St Johnstone's benefit and not other clubs in the league. These decisions can ultimately influence where teams finish over the course of a season.

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13 minutes ago, Hibernianification said:

Unquestionably, it's the right decision and I would go as far as suggesting that the yellow card is harsh.

They'll be Aberdeen fans who will feel more aggrieved by the Shinnie red card decision after seeing Hibs' successful appeal.

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