coprolite Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, houston_bud said: I think that clip is pretty conclusive but I take your point that it's on a phone. Are there not VAR cameras behind the goals though? Presumably that was inconclusive too? Does St Mirren TV / Sportscene not have access to VAR cameras behind the goal? I meant I’m looking at it on a phone. The camera person might be using a state of the art telephoto for all I know. I don’t think VAR requires cameras behind the goal from memory. 18 yard lines for offside and a centre line one I think. Would be surprised if they had extra cameras there for the telly too. Edited August 29, 2023 by coprolite How many cameras will there be? A minimum of six cameras – two in the main stands, one on each of the 18-yard lines and one behind each goal. If there are any additional cameras at the match (e.g. Sky matches), the VAR will have access to the additional 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, coprolite said: I meant I’m looking at it on a phone. The camera person might be using a state of the art telephoto for all I know. I don’t think VAR requires cameras behind the goal from memory. 18 yard lines for offside and a centre line one I think. Would be surprised if they had extra cameras there for the telly too. SFA website says there are cameras behind each goal. Although, thinking about it, I don't remember seeing any behind the goals at St Mirren Park. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_blockhead Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 12 hours ago, Bobby_F said: How often does that happen at a penalty? I've never seen a goal keeper claiming for a retake based on encroachment, neither for a double touch. Someone literally sent you a video of a very recent one ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, afc_blockhead said: Someone literally sent you a video of a very recent one ... That doesn’t mean it happens often nor does it mean they saw it. Edited August 30, 2023 by AJF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Div Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I hate that VAR has now made me second guess whether a goal we have just scored is going to stand. You lose yourself in that moment, like you always have, then you start staring at the referee, waiting for his finger going up to his ear. It’s fucking horrible. That said, it IS swings and roundabouts. We’ve had a couple decisions go against us recently that were inconclusive (the Dundee goal and this double touch) which is frustrating but end of the day the officials can’t just guess, if the cameras they have available don’t clearly show evidence that contradicts the decision the on field referee has made them they can’t intervene. That’s just something we need to live with and whether there are alternative views from “fan cams” that seem to prove the point we want to make is fairly irrelevant. We wouldn’t have got the penalty at Easter Road without VAR being there so it’s not all been bad news for us. Concentrate instead on the fact that we comprehensively played Aberdeen off the park on Sunday instead, the team that finished 3rd last season and a team with a playing budget 3 or 4 times the one we have. Every chance we will play worse than that at times this season and yet win the game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_blockhead Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 46 minutes ago, AJF said: That doesn’t mean it happens often nor does it mean they saw it. Just because they havent seen it happen before doesnt mean it never happens ... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, afc_blockhead said: Just because they havent seen it happen before doesnt mean it never happens ... Of course, the clip previously posted proves that, but that doesn't mean what they said is wrong. I don't think I can recall a keeper claiming for encroachment or a double-hit off the top of my head either (out with the clip already posted). They were clearly using their own experience to demonstrate how rare an occurrence they believe it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Will the greeting end before the Xmas greetings begin? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 20 hours ago, O_Kahn said: Eddie, are you at it? I said I'd never seen it, not that it never happens. Implying that it happens rarely. O_Kahn, are you at it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 13 hours ago, afc_blockhead said: Someone literally sent you a video of a very recent one ... They did. I hadn't seen that video, or any other instance where a keeper claimed for a double touch. You implied that goal keepers regularly claim for infringements that might overturn a scored penalty, and so this happening should be ignored. I was just pointing out that what you said was nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_blockhead Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 hours ago, AJF said: Of course, the clip previously posted proves that, but that doesn't mean what they said is wrong. I don't think I can recall a keeper claiming for encroachment or a double-hit off the top of my head either (out with the clip already posted). They were clearly using their own experience to demonstrate how rare an occurrence they believe it is. They insinuated because they cant recall it happening that it never happens. A recent example was provided. Fairly simple to follow. Think you are after an argument for no reason here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afc_blockhead Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Bobby_F said: They did. I hadn't seen that video, or any other instance where a keeper claimed for a double touch. You implied that goal keepers regularly claim for infringements that might overturn a scored penalty, and so this happening should be ignored.I was just pointing out that what you said was nonsense. You werent You implied that as you couldn't recall any instances of something happening , that means it doesnt happen I also pointed out that at pretty much any goal conceded (even momentarily) a member of the team whose conceded a goal will claim offside/a foul etc You seem to be naive enough to believe a St Mirren player suggesting a goal conceded shouldnt count for whatever reason means they are making some honest moral point Nonsense and stupidity are the things you have exhibited here All coming from the fact you cant cope that St Mirren at the teams peak cant beat Aberdeen on our worst day. Live with it Edited August 30, 2023 by afc_blockhead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 FFS please make it stop 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, afc_blockhead said: You werent You implied that as you couldn't recall any instances of something happening , that means it doesnt happen I also pointed out that at pretty much any goal conceded (even momentarily) a member of the team whose conceded a goal will claim offside/a foul etc You seem to be naive enough to believe a St Mirren player suggesting a goal conceded shouldnt count for whatever reason means they are making some honest moral point Nonsense and stupidity are the things you have exhibited here All coming from the fact you cant cope that St Mirren at the teams peak cant beat Aberdeen on our worst day. Live with it U ok h-u-n? Edited August 31, 2023 by Bobby_F 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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