Donathan Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Can you clarify these two sentences for me, because it comes across like you’re suggesting the hatred is mostly one-way - which would be, you know, ludicrous given the open calls for ethnic cleansing we’ve seen from Israeli officials and supporters in recent days. Israelis hate Palestinians entirely due to the behaviour of Palestinians. They are perfectly happy to co-exist with the countless other Muslim countries in the area. Palestinians hate Israelis for being Jewish. It’s a false equivalence. -15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Donathan said: Palestinians hate Israelis for being Jewish. If I respond any further to you on this, I’ll end up banned. I’ll just say that you might want to investigate how the Palestinians have been treated by the Israeli’s over the last 70 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 What do Israel really expect to gain from pounding Gaza and murdering women and kids? Shits and giggles? Netenwahoo getting his arse patted by Biden et al? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: What do Israel really expect to gain from pounding Gaza and murdering women and kids? Shits and giggles? Netenwahoo getting his arse patted by Biden et al? It’s an entirely revengeful move, IMO. Tough to blame them when the Palestinians are beheading Israeli babies, but yea, they’re not going to “gain” anything from it per se. War is a horrible thing. -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DannyBlue Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 How quickly one can fall from 47 minutes ago, Donathan said: It’s an incredibly complex issue To 7 minutes ago, Donathan said: Palestinians hate Israelis for being Jewish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, Donathan said: Palestinians are beheading Israeli babies, Presumably you have corroborating evidence for this? Or is Rachel Riley your goto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, Melanius Mullarkay said: Presumably you have corroborating evidence for this? Or is Rachel Riley your goto? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12615031/Hamas-terrorists-beheaded-babies-kibbutz-slaughter-IDF-soldiers-reveal-horrific-scenes-carnage-discovered-site-scores-people-massacred.html -5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Donathan said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12615031/Hamas-terrorists-beheaded-babies-kibbutz-slaughter-IDF-soldiers-reveal-horrific-scenes-carnage-discovered-site-scores-people-massacred.html The Daily Mail? Think I’ll take Rachel Riley’s word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Donathan said: Palestinians hate Israelis for being Jewish. All of them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Fullerene said: After the Holocaust, with so many dead, it was understandable that the world might want to give the Jews a homeland of their own. Unfortunately the area chosen was already somebody else's home. The combined population of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip is comparable to that of Scotland and there are more than a million Palestinians in Israel itself. That is a lot of displaced people and by all accounts they appear to be second-class citizens in the eyes of Israel. Obviously the actions of Hamas should be condemned but what does Israel propose to allow ordinary Palestinians to have the same quality of life that they think Israelis are entitled to? The problem with that is that the path was already set before the end of the 2nd world war. Balfour was a bit presumptuous just after the first war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ziggy Sobotka said: All of them ? Yes. There is a huge amount of Anti-Semitism within Islam. -3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Donathan said: Yes. There is a huge amount of Anti-Semitism within Islam. Wow, wasn't aware all Palestinians are Islamists. Even the christian ones and the secular ones ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: The problem with that is that the path was already set before the end of the 2nd world war. Balfour was a bit presumptuous just after the first war. The Balfour Declaration was 1917, while WWI was in progress. Ironically, I think the Balfour Declaration was primarily antisemitic in its main objective, i.e. if the Jews have a homeland then they won't be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 This thread has taken a yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 48 minutes ago, Donathan said: Yes. There is a huge amount of Anti-Semitism within Islam. Is there? Where is this anti-Semitism in the Quran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) I offer these links only to demonstrate that there can be little understanding of the current situation without taking account of a broad spectrum of opinions. Viewing thro only one partisan prism helps no-one. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/11/israel-palestine-war-biden-zelenskiy https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/11/israel-hamas-attack-gaza-9-11-cautionary-tale Edited October 11, 2023 by O'Kelly Isley III Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I think the existing Israel/Palestine thread is probably sufficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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