immcinto Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 I think 4pts from remaining two games likely puts us in pot 2. Austria are the biggest threat. Hungary drawing last night guarantees pot 1 I think if Spain slip up and we get 6pts 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy McJagface Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 That disallowed goal and the Hickey slip are both hugely frustrating what ifs. The difference between pot 1 and 2 in terms of the group we could end up with could be pretty huge. Hopefully we get a kind draw for once! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, immcinto said: I think 4pts from remaining two games likely puts us in pot 2. Austria are the biggest threat. Hungary drawing last night guarantees pot 1 I think if Spain slip up and we get 6pts We've a +1 GD on Austria but they've scored 3 more and a point ahead. We just need to match whatever they win by to guarantee being above them (assuming they win, and that we also get a draw). Two wins means we're a 2nd seed as far as I can see. I don't see any other obvious threats as Denmark and Slovenia have to play one another, so 17 points is the maximum that either can finish on, and be 2nd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Sticks in the craw a bit that we'll likely finish on more points than a lot of the group winners. Spain losing either of the games against the diddies is never going to happen really The league A play off is currently set to be Poland/Italy/Croatia/Estonia League B Israel/Bosnia/Finland/Iceland League C Georgia/Greece/Kazakhstan/Luxembourg 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Still a long way to go, that projection has Israel and Croatia qualifying which I don't necessarily agree with. Apart from that things are starting to settle. I think we'd want Italy to win against Ukraine to take them out of a potential 4th seeding spot. I can just picture France/Scotland/Netherlands/Italy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy McJagface Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, MarkoRaj said: Still a long way to go, that projection has Israel and Croatia qualifying which I don't necessarily agree with. Apart from that things are starting to settle. I think we'd want Italy to win against Ukraine to take them out of a potential 4th seeding spot. I can just picture France/Scotland/Netherlands/Italy This kind of draw is my fear as well. Frustratingly, it’s a draw that isn’t possible from pot 3 but is for pot 2. Hopefully Italy get the job done next month and we don’t have to worry about it, though. I think the prospects of progression will likely hinge on who we get out of that 3rd pot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, MarkoRaj said: Sticks in the craw a bit that we'll likely finish on more points than a lot of the group winners. Spain losing either of the games against the diddies is never going to happen really The league A play off is currently set to be Poland/Italy/Croatia/Estonia League B Israel/Bosnia/Finland/Iceland League C Georgia/Greece/Kazakhstan/Luxembourg In my capacity as a Scotland fan, I deem it inherently unfair that seeding is being done based on group position first and not points alone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) I agree that he is underated but don't think Shankland and Nisbet have done much wrong to lose there notch on the totem pole Suppose we need to see if he is still top scorer when the next squad is announced And if he is then maybe just maybe we will have a wee look at him in the squad And for the record put Shankland in any championship team down there he bangs them in as well Sorry this was for the Ryan Hardie thread..... Edited October 18, 2023 by General dissaray 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Jaggy McJagface said: This kind of draw is my fear as well. Frustratingly, it’s a draw that isn’t possible from pot 3 but is for pot 2. Hopefully Italy get the job done next month and we don’t have to worry about it, though. I think the prospects of progression will likely hinge on who we get out of that 3rd pot. The way things are going Italy could easily be pot 4 regardless now. The most points Italy can now get in finishing 2nd to England is 16. At least 7 of the runners up in the other groups will likely have more than 16pts (or better GD) so Italy will finish in places 18th-20th for automatically qualified teams. Teams 1-17 go into pots 1-3 + Germany. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, General dissaray said: I agree that he is underated but don't think Shankland and Nisbet have done much wrong to lose there notch on the totem pole Suppose we need to see if he is still top scorer when the next squad is announced And if he is then maybe just maybe we will have a wee look at him in the squad And for the record put Shankland in any championship team down there he bangs them in as well He's been rotten for Hearts the last couple of months, doesn't look particularly fit never mind sharp and appears to be resenting the fact he never got bog move in the summer. That said it was Celtic at home (this weekends fixture) when he came alive last season so let's see if the international break has revived him. Given the 26 man Euro's squad there is a huge opportunity for a couple of players to force their way in with consistent good form domestically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Hendricks said: He's been rotten for Hearts the last couple of months, doesn't look particularly fit never mind sharp and appears to be resenting the fact he never got bog move in the summer. That said it was Celtic at home (this weekends fixture) when he came alive last season so let's see if the international break has revived him. Given the 26 man Euro's squad there is a huge opportunity for a couple of players to force their way in with consistent good form domestically. Guys literally a fitness trainer is a lot off shite,and doubt he is resenting moving he literally lives were he comes from and gets in from training to spend time with his kid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Hendricks said: The way things are going Italy could easily be pot 4 regardless now. The most points Italy can now get in finishing 2nd to England is 16. At least 7 of the runners up in the other groups will likely have more than 16pts (or better GD) so Italy will finish in places 18th-20th for automatically qualified teams. Teams 1-17 go into pots 1-3 + Germany. I kinda take the view that if they finish there, they’ve finished there for a reason and therefore we shouldn’t worry about them. Of all the “big” teams, Italy must be the one that most often has a poor team, to the extent of sometimes not even qualifying. Particularly in more recent times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I kinda take the view that if they finish there, they’ve finished there for a reason and therefore we shouldn’t worry about them. Of all the “big” teams, Italy must be the one that most often has a poor team, to the extent of sometimes not even qualifying. Particularly in more recent times. Think it's just a tough group. England are on it and Ukraine must be up there for toughest pot 3 teams. Thought Italy looked decent and competed well at Wembley the other night 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendricks Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 19 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: I kinda take the view that if they finish there, they’ve finished there for a reason and therefore we shouldn’t worry about them. Of all the “big” teams, Italy must be the one that most often has a poor team, to the extent of sometimes not even qualifying. Particularly in more recent times. Them and the Dutch seem to have had a tough time, relatively speaking, making things easy for themselves over the last few years. Neither worry me nearly as much England, France or Portugal. Even Germany seem a far more attractive proposition in respect to the likelihood of getting a result. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Algebraist Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 I am more minded to see it all as an opportunity. France, England and Portugal seem well ahead of us at present. Outside of that trio I would give our full strength squad a punchers chance against anyone at the tournament. We've also got the added bonus of the derby factor against England. McSauce for top scorer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 I'm not seeing a huge reason to prefer being in pot-2 to pot-3 for Euro-2024, maybe that'll change this month - but as things stand with a round of games to go this is how the pots would be arranged for the final tournament and Pot-3 looks like a decent place to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 hours ago, 2426255 said: I'm not seeing a huge reason to prefer being in pot-2 to pot-3 for Euro-2024, maybe that'll change this month - but as things stand with a round of games to go this is how the pots would be arranged for the final tournament and Pot-3 looks like a decent place to be. Yikes! By that graphic, I'd say pot 3 is better for us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 Indeed, pot 3 looks like a better bet as things stand. Obviously things can shift though. Not that I'm suggesting we throw games (deliberately at least, we're well capable of just being shite) but what's a likely string of results that would definitely push us to pot 3? Or is pot 4 out of the question now, so it's basically drop any points in these two games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 It's always worth remembering that names and actual quality aren't the same thing, and that teams tend to be in the pots they're in for a reason. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: It's always worth remembering that names and actual quality aren't the same thing, and that teams tend to be in the pots they're in for a reason. Agreed. I said pretty much the same thing on another thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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