Skyline Drifter Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Just now, General dissaray said: Aye he was but actually neant Alan McLaren hence ne mentioning McPherson Ah, fair enough then, McLaren was at that level. As was potentially John Kennedy while we're on the subject of defensive talents whose career was ruined. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Oh, you're talking club football? Levein was better than Alan McManus. Way better. McLaren career ended at 27 he was a fantastic center back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, kennie makevin said: McGrain Dave Mackay Jim Holton Tommy Gemmell John Greig George Young Billy McNeill Tommy Gemmell - no. Obviously brilliant going forward but , imho , not that good defensively ! IIRC Hugh McAlvanney ( sp ) had as his central pairing Dave MacKay and the Rangers ( ? ) player from the fifties who was eventually banned sine die. Sorry I have forgotten his name George Young , a teammate ( ? ) , was supposed to be really good. and McKinnon ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Lee Kilday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: Ah, fair enough then, McLaren was at that level. As was potentially John Kennedy while we're on the subject of defensive talents whose career was ruined. Agreed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted November 20, 2023 Author Share Posted November 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, General dissaray said: Levein was good but no better than McPherson and McManus the later also had a career ending injury He was way better than ( Davie ) McPherson , at least! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, Ewanandmoreagain said: He was way better than ( Davie ) McPherson , at least! Doubt it or else he woukd got a move younger to a bigger club someone would offered goofd money and he would been told 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 One of the greatest centre half’s I ever watched was Bobby Reid who was being targeted by Liverpool before his career was cruelly cut short by an injury sustained playing for a Scotland select. Liverpool rated Reid really highly. Many older Saints fans who also witnessed a young Gordon McQueen said Bobby was a far better player. Bobby became a lawyer after retiring from football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Sean Dillon -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt Caley Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 I’ll come back to this thread after Aaron Hickeys won his 3rd Ballon Dor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie adie Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Mc Leish Miller. Malpas. Boyd. Robertson. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Wilkie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Warren Cummings or Darren Barr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) "Scotland havnae had a defence since George Young retired", is one of my old man's most commonly used phrases during internationals. He probably uttered it again watching Sportscene last night. Edited November 21, 2023 by Lurkst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 11 hours ago, Lurkst said: "Scotland havnae had a defence since George Young retired", is one of my old man's most commonly used phrases during internationals. He probably uttered it again watching Sports last night. My dad says "I maintain goalkeepers should stay on their line" every game. Without fail. Those exact words. He considers his position is supported whenever a goalkeeper comes out to narrow the angle and is beaten. If the goalkeeper saves it he invariably "gets away with one". Fun times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, KingRocketman II said: My dad says "I maintain goalkeepers should stay on their line" every game. Without fail. Those exact words. He considers his position is supported whenever a goalkeeper comes out to narrow the angle and is beaten. If the goalkeeper saves it he invariably "gets away with one". Fun times. Geometry is for losers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Alan Twelve said: Geometry is for losers. Kudos for referencing the appropriate sub-branch of mathematics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 In my time watching the team(2002ish onwards) its probably only Robertson that's obviously the best in his position Right back its either Hutton or Hickey. Will give it to Hutton for the time being just because Hickey's played so little, Hickey has a much higher ceiling. Bardsley was solid enough when called upon. Centre-half has not been kind to us. In the early years we had David Weir, who was decent but ancient, partnered up with some turnip like Caldwell or McManus. Then we had Hanley, Berra, Russell Martin, Mulgrew in the Strachan years, slightly better but not by much. The current crop is the best in my time, bit how much of that is down to a competent manager and team? Left-backs we've done alright. Robertson and Tierney are world class. Gary Naysmith was a good player. The spell between those periods with the likes of Danny Fox, Stephen Crainey, Paul Dixon, Craig Forsyth and out of position Whittaker picking up caps would be well forgotten about. Overall, regardless of position our best defenders have been: 1. Robertson 2. Tierney 3. Hutton 4. Weir 5. Naysmith 6. Jack Hendry 7. Hanley 8. Mulgrew 9. Hickey 10. Andy Considine -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted November 21, 2023 Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Jives Miguel said: 10. Andy Considine behave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewanandmoreagain Posted November 21, 2023 Author Share Posted November 21, 2023 4 hours ago, Jives Miguel said: In my time watching the team(2002ish onwards) its probably only Robertson that's obviously the best in his position Right back its either Hutton or Hickey. Will give it to Hutton for the time being just because Hickey's played so little, Hickey has a much higher ceiling. Bardsley was solid enough when called upon. Centre-half has not been kind to us. In the early years we had David Weir, who was decent but ancient, partnered up with some turnip like Caldwell or McManus. Then we had Hanley, Berra, Russell Martin, Mulgrew in the Strachan years, slightly better but not by much. The current crop is the best in my time, bit how much of that is down to a competent manager and team? Left-backs we've done alright. Robertson and Tierney are world class. Gary Naysmith was a good player. The spell between those periods with the likes of Danny Fox, Stephen Crainey, Paul Dixon, Craig Forsyth and out of position Whittaker picking up caps would be well forgotten about. Overall, regardless of position our best defenders have been: 1. Robertson 2. Tierney 3. Hutton 4. Weir 5. Naysmith 6. Jack Hendry 7. Hanley 8. Mulgrew 9. Hickey 10. Andy Considine They could make an interesting back five ; Robertson / Naysmith , Tierney , Weir , Hanley , Hickey / Hutton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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