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The Draw Saturday 2nd December


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A thread to follow the draw live. On the UEFA website and BBC Sportscene from around 5PM.

First time we've qualified from the group and been actively involved in a draw since 1997. 

Starting to get very exciting!

Pot 1: Germany (hosts), Portugal, France, Spain, Belgium, England

 

Pot 2: Hungary, Turkey, Romania, Denmark, Albania, Austria

 

Pot 3: Netherlands, Scotland, Croatia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Czech Republic

 

Pot 4: Italy, Serbia, Switzerland, Play-off winner A, Play-off winner B, Play-off winner C

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Potential venues followed by dates. Any but A1 are equally probable afaik.

 

A1: München, Stuttgart, Frankfurt 14,19,23
A2: München, Köln, Stuttgart 14,19,23
A3: Köln, Stuttgart, Stuttgart 15,19,23
A4: Köln, Köln, Frankfurt 15,19,23

B1: Berlin, Gelsenkirchen, Düsseldorf 15,20,24
B2: Berlin, Hamburg, Leipzig 15,19,24
B3: Dortmind, Gelsenkirchen, Leipzig 15,20,24
B4: Dortmund, Hamburg, Düsseldorf 15,19,24

C1: Stuttgart, München, Köln 16,20,25
C2: Stuttgart, Frankfurt, München 16,20,25
C3: Gelsenkirchen, München, München 16,20,25
C4: Gelsenkirchen, Frankfurt, Köln 16,20,25

D1: Hamburg, Berlin, Dortmund 16,21,25
D2: Hamburg, Leipzig, Berlin 16,21,25
D3: Düsseldorf, Berlin, Berlin 17,21,25
D4: Düsseldorf, Leipzig, Dortmund 17,21,25

E1: Frankfurt, Köln, Stuttgart 17,22,26
E2: Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Frankfurt 17,21,26
E3: München, Köln, Frankfurt 17,22,26
E4: München, Düsseldorf, Stuttgart 17,21,26

F1: Dortmund, Dortmund, Hamburg 18,22,26
F2: Dortmund, Leipzig, Hamburg 18,22,26
F3: Leipzig, Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen 18,22,26
F4: Leipzig, Hamburg, Hamburg 18,22,26

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7 minutes ago, microdave said:

I've just made the draw. We'll play the Play off A winner first in Gelsenkirchen on 16/6 followed by Denmark in Munich on the 20th and finish up against Spain also in Munich on the 25th. 

 

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That England group looks about right.  Fully expecting Clyde to appear as the Play Off B winner.

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4 hours ago, welshbairn said:

Potential venues followed by dates. Any but A1 are equally probable afaik.

 

A1: München, Stuttgart, Frankfurt 14,19,23
A2: München, Köln, Stuttgart 14,19,23
A3: Köln, Stuttgart, Stuttgart 15,19,23
A4: Köln, Köln, Frankfurt 15,19,23

B1: Berlin, Gelsenkirchen, Düsseldorf 15,20,24
B2: Berlin, Hamburg, Leipzig 15,19,24
B3: Dortmind, Gelsenkirchen, Leipzig 15,20,24
B4: Dortmund, Hamburg, Düsseldorf 15,19,24

C1: Stuttgart, München, Köln 16,20,25
C2: Stuttgart, Frankfurt, München 16,20,25
C3: Gelsenkirchen, München, München 16,20,25
C4: Gelsenkirchen, Frankfurt, Köln 16,20,25

D1: Hamburg, Berlin, Dortmund 16,21,25
D2: Hamburg, Leipzig, Berlin 16,21,25
D3: Düsseldorf, Berlin, Berlin 17,21,25
D4: Düsseldorf, Leipzig, Dortmund 17,21,25

E1: Frankfurt, Köln, Stuttgart 17,22,26
E2: Frankfurt, Düsseldorf, Frankfurt 17,21,26
E3: München, Köln, Frankfurt 17,22,26
E4: München, Düsseldorf, Stuttgart 17,21,26

F1: Dortmund, Dortmund, Hamburg 18,22,26
F2: Dortmund, Leipzig, Hamburg 18,22,26
F3: Leipzig, Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen 18,22,26
F4: Leipzig, Hamburg, Hamburg 18,22,26

In terms of which grounds I’d like to visit, D1 is probably what I hope for, although it’s a fair amount of travelling. Have been to Cologne and Munich, so a position that doesn’t have either of those twice (or both) would be appreciated. 

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I’m in danger of being whooshed however will we know the fixtures straight away after the draw tomorrow? I’ve got tickets to E3 v E4 in Munich which I presumed would be the pot 3 v pot 4 team in group E but apparently that’s not the case. 

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Indeed you will know the two teams who are playing in that match, and yes it can be two teams from any two pots that end up in group e. It will be very clear and obvious when watching the draw, though the kickoff time will be likely released hours later. 

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5 hours ago, ayrunitedfw said:

I’m in danger of being whooshed however will we know the fixtures straight away after the draw tomorrow? I’ve got tickets to E3 v E4 in Munich which I presumed would be the pot 3 v pot 4 team in group E but apparently that’s not the case. 

Any team from any pot can end up as E3, F2, D1 etc. It’s made planning that bit more difficult. 

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I just get the feeling we will get a shite draw that will be slightly deflating.  Msybe itbis due yo previous experiences.  Hope I am wrong.

3 teams I want to avoid are...

England (cannot be bothered with the sideshow)

Spain (just had them).

France (I do not see us getting anything out of it)

I know it is a bit of a contradiction with my opening statement but looking at all the other teams in the competition, I genuinely  think that if we turn up on the day we could get something from anybody.

Anyways, we are there...bring it on!

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