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Just now, VincentGuerin said:

Amazing that Celtic's supporters seem to be so unhappy with their board and management structure.

I thought Celtic were a really, really, really well-run club and that and that alone is why they are so rich and win all the time.

Weird, eh?

Well.... That, AND wanting it more

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Poor result and performance today, especially second half. Could've and should've been out of sight in the first half had we taken our chances. Nat Phillips is an absolute donkey and I'm amazed Liverpool ever saw fit to sign him. It's also time to end the Liam Scales experiment. Credit to him for performing above expectations when he came in but long term he's not the answer.

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31 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said:

Mcinnes reminds me a bit like when clarke was at killie, knew how to punch well above his weight at times but when expected to win, it kinda falls apart

He's the type of manager that won't win you much if anything, but could easily become a permanent top 6 side while he is there, quite comfortably top 6 tbh

Absolute solid gaffer 


This didn't happen to Clarke though. In his entire time at Killie he only lost one match to a team that wasn't Rangers, Celtic, Hearts, Hibs or Aberdeen.

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35 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said:

Mcinnes reminds me a bit like when clarke was at killie, knew how to punch well above his weight at times but when expected to win, it kinda falls apart

He's the type of manager that won't win you much if anything, but could easily become a permanent top 6 side while he is there, quite comfortably top 6 tbh

Absolute solid gaffer 

Moron.

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52 minutes ago, Sortmeout said:

What’s the wind up with Live it Up? Don’t get it?

It's a song Celtic fans sing so I'm guessing the Kilmarnock PA guy played it and when you hear some of  the lyrics it tickled me a bit considering we lost.

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34 minutes ago, ahemps said:

I genuinely believe this is the case and I have thought so since they approached him. Celtic were a stepping stone for him 1st time around and 2yrs ago when things were going well for Leicester he probably thought he was staying in the EPL for a good while and probably envisaged he was in line for a Spurs or Chelsea type job. To find himself back to playing Kilmarnock and Ross County 4 times a season while the Celtic board penny pinch around him is miles away from where he wants to be. 

He is a few results away from this becoming toxic and the best support in the world attacking their own players again.

Reminds me of singer who walked out to his audience and said ....

This is the type of venue you only play on your way up or on your way down.

It's great to be back

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1 hour ago, VincentGuerin said:

Amazing that Celtic's supporters seem to be so unhappy with their board and management structure.

I thought Celtic were a really, really, really well-run club and that and that alone is why they are so rich and win all the time.

Weird, eh?

Celtic fans haven’t been happy with the board for a long, long time. We might be rich but we don’t spend in a way that sees us improve so we yo-yo between being almost untouchable domestically to doing just enough to win the league all whilst falling flat in Europe.

There is a glass ceiling the board just won’t push through however it’s plain to see to anyone with eyes that aren’t painted on our recruitment this season so far has been pish, utterly pish so it will be interesting to see what we do in January especially with the Asian Cup happening.

We won’t win every game and Killie is a place where we do come unstuck from time to time however today we just got battered. We didn’t go undefeated in the league in the last 2 seasons and there was no way we were doing it this season, the bigger surprise is that it took till December.

 

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1 hour ago, wingnut said:

We got what we deserved a the end of the day as we don’t take our chances when they come and that matters big time,as for only giving us the one end it maybe have worked the day cause Killie won but not long term,for that bottin that’s supports Killie and Sevco,Sawyers a think the dafties name is he’s a turd and always will be,we’ll have to turn the Jambos over next week and put in a good show,mon the Hoops 🍀

Ooft, you’re one clever guy.

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10 minutes ago, Jinky67 said:

Celtic fans haven’t been happy with the board for a long, long time. We might be rich but we don’t spend in a way that sees us improve so we yo-yo between being almost untouchable domestically to doing just enough to win the league all whilst falling flat in Europe.

There is a glass ceiling the board just won’t push through however it’s plain to see to anyone with eyes that aren’t painted on our recruitment this season so far has been pish, utterly pish so it will be interesting to see what we do in January especially with the Asian Cup happening.

We won’t win every game and Killie is a place where we do come unstuck from time to time however today we just got battered. We didn’t go undefeated in the league in the last 2 seasons and there was no way we were doing it this season, the bigger surprise is that it took till December.

 

 

Open the biscuit tin Peter.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Sortmeout said:

How you feeling about McInnes now? 

For me I’ve been back and forth with McInnes (wanted him sacked after Caley in the cup QF and at half time against Celtic in April for example) and just as recently as seeing the starting line up on Wednesday night away at Aberdeen I was saying he was annoying me a bit again so I’m not going to make out as if I’ve always been behind him.

However I probably need to start giving him a bit more respect as, regardless of result, he’s made sure the team are competitive in every game.  Thats a good few times now that we've stood up to a really tough challenge.

you seem perhaps a little more fickle than your average game going fan...

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1 hour ago, gannonball said:

It's a song Celtic fans sing so I'm guessing the Kilmarnock PA guy played it and when you hear some of  the lyrics it tickled me a bit considering we lost.

Not starting to start an argument coz I really don't care but first time I heard it was us during the covid season when we won the league then celtc fans did it after, were they actually singing it before then? 

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We were slow to start today and let's be honest, if it wasn't for Will Dennis in that opening 15, Celtic would have already put the game to bed.

After that I thought we matched them a lot better. They've a poor defence and goalie. They're supposed to be a possession-based side but the truth is their back four isn't good enough for this; they're not "press-resistant" enough to use a Rodgers phrase from today!

Last August I was so critical of how McInnes set us up at home to Celtic; sit in, invite as much pressure as we could, pay them way more respect than they deserve. The Old Firm sides of present are not those of years gone by; they're very ordinary with very ordinary defences. He got his tactics absolutely spot on in January at Hampden, and better again in the games vs Rangers and Celtic this August. Show them absolutely no respect at all, get on top of them, make it uncomfy, test them in a way they aren't normally tested. If they normally look good, it's only because teams sit off them and let them have lots and lots of the ball.

Delighted to see after a ropey start, we started to make life difficult for them. Very unlucky not to have ourselves a goal in that first half, between Kennedy's excellent ball in to the back post for Kennedy (how? how did that not go in?) and Ndaba's back-post sitter. At the game I was livid with him for not scoring it; seeing it back, Alistair Johnston rolled in and turned it away with an arm on the line, which VAR weren't interested in for obvious reasons.

Really good input from McInnes at half-time, had us a lot better drilled and going at Celtic better. I think he deserves tremendous credit for being so positive with his enforced subby. Donnelly had been awful negative with a lot of his passing I felt. Taking him off when he got injured and throwing another striker on was a bold move that paid off. Our one performer that wasn't a 9 or a 10 today was Vassell, but to be fair to the big man he looked better in the two.

Watkins when he came on absolutely worked his baws off.

The two goals were thoroughly deserved and both things of beauty. Armstrong's cut inside and whipped ball in to the feet of Watkins was a tremendous pass and a difficult bit of skill. Big man took it in well and picked just the right pass. I said to my dad before the game that when Armstrong and Lyons play well in these games, the team play well. Brad had a great game today and took up a brilliant position for the equaliser. We should take a moment to appreciate the work ethic of the guy; he covered every blade of grass today and when he's doing as much hard defensive work, to burst forward like that takes a great engine. Good of Philips to be so slow getting out that he plays him on, and even nicer still of him to turn it in for us. Big haddy.

The second goal is even better. After a bit of defending of our own, let's give credit to Liam Polworth, who does exactly what he does best and why I think he should start more often. Stops, slows the game down, stays calm, doesn't panic - picks a really good forward pass to get us up the park instead of just launching it.

Armstrong and Kennedy combine brilliantly and I love the wee point from Kennedy - Danny picks him out perfectly. Delighted for the wee man that he finally gets his Killie goal. Super week for him, an assist and a goal. Another assist for Danny, who will be back to having a target on his back for certain sections of the support come Saturday no doubt.

You could go through the team and make an argument for MOTM today. Fantastic to a man.

The best bit for me is that my wee nephew was there. Started out a Rangers fan at a young age, has been coming with me to Killie games on and off for years, and recently as he develops a real interest in football and goes to any game he can, has been to a lot of Ayr with his dad. Even got a top. I've been forking out for scarves etc to try and keep his interest in Killie. I've seen him swithering in recent weeks, as Ayr continue to be an embarassment and Killie pick up some good victories.

Yesterday got his gran to buy him the full Killie keeper kit for his Christmas. Today sees us beating the Old Firm in a home league game, something he'll never see Ayr do. I can see him inching more and more in to the Killie camp. Wants to come to Livi next week. A beautiful thing to watch develop in front of your eyes!

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