on the bonnie bonnie banks Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Tony Wonder said: The fact that you think any of that helps your argument about the standard is brilliant. The standard of defending. The standard of goalkeeping, the time he's given. His gut. It's all shite. That's the Wonder of you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wonder Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 minute ago, on the bonnie bonnie banks said: That's the Wonder of you A truly Charlie Nicholas level put down. Enjoy your shan trolling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on the bonnie bonnie banks Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: A lower league striker with a YouTube highlight reel is always a sign of a top quality player IMO. Even you have to admit that some of those goals alone were worth the admission 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Kirk Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 This thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Can someone direct the numbers guy back to the Billy Gilmour thread please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhame Buddie Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 25 Pages? Why are you still giving this knob airtime? Get the in the sea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on the bonnie bonnie banks Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, SH Panda said: Adams spoke pish and doubled down on it. It doesn't really matter as he was someone with no respectability to begin with. He's suffering the consequences now, and I hope it gets worse for him. He's done you a massive favour and said what most of you deluded folk have been denying, There are no consequences for him or anybody else who speaks the truth and and certainly not from the likes of you pal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 What a lot of pish this thread has descended into. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, SH Panda said: For your own sake, don't give respect for a bunch of mentalists just because they are "honest and straightforward" about their views. You're just legitimising nonsense. Anyone with a risible, factually incorrect opinion, should be mocked and ridiculed for it - maybe it will help them abandon such nonsense whether it be flat earth theory, powerful people are lizards or dangerous views like race supremecy or holocaust denial. It should ultimately benefit them, mollycoddling them as every opinion is valid will only harm them. I think if you mock and ridicule people for their opinions it can be a deterrent. You can see that attempting to play out in this thread and more generally on P&B, but it's probably not the right path to go down for me. If you ridicule people I've found it can be effective at stopping them airing their opinion, but doesn't always stop them holding that opinion. That would be a worse situation as all you've done is taken away the lines of dialogue, which might be the desired effect on an internet football forum - that's fine, but in more general life it's not my preferred approach. I'd imagine anyone whose other half has held a factually incorrect opinion will understand that. Edited December 21, 2023 by 2426255 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 15 hours ago, on the bonnie bonnie banks said: I listened to what Adam's said and you know what, he's completely correct about the difference in standard between the English game and what you've become accustomed to north of the border and Yes,the current Morecambe side that Derek put together and left, would give atleast half of your SPL a good game. All this talk of the Old firm joining the premier league would be a complete non starter, because neither of them would be competitive there, they'd get battered every other week. Maybe the championship at best and many sides in that league would be a tough challenge for them There are bigger clubs in our non league than Ross county and co, In fairness to Adam's, he's been there, done it and seen both sides, something those 3 having a go at him haven't. I hope he gets a response and his player's up their game, for he'd know if they weren't pulling their weight and if not, they usually end up out of the team. Fair play to the guy for his honesty, I much prefer someone who says it as it is! You've missed the point somehow given this thread is 25 pages long! The controversy is nothing to do with the assertion that English football is better than Scottish, but that a Div 2 side in England is 100 times better than teams in our top league. OK, we'll allow him the exaggeration but still it's a nonsense comment and anything but an honest opinion IMHO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 16 hours ago, SH Panda said: You admire someone's directness and honesty irregardless of what they're actually saying? That's a pretty wild way to live. At least Holocaust deniers, flat earths, conspiracy nuts etc are very direct in what they are saying eh? Talk pish and get called out on it, that's how the world should work. Nobody is saying Derek Adams shouldn't be allowed to say what he said, he definitely should, he should equally suffer the consequences of saying something so stupid. As for the last paragraph, someone better tell Armando Iannucci. Call a c**t a c**t. Would rather that than tie myself in knots admiring "directness and honesty" when people talk utter pish. Usually the confidence with which a statement is delivered is inversely proportional to its quality. I don't take economic advice for the bible bashers on Buchanan street, for example, but you sound like you would be a big fan. Tldr, Adams - chat shit get banged. And a good opportunity to talk up how factually great Scottish football actually is. Which would be fine if Scottish football was either factually, actually or contractually great. But it's not. It's tedious predictable garbage and the longer that fact is ignored the longer it will stay that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 11 hours ago, 2426255 said: Faddy didn't say anything about current form or struggling. He said in no uncertain terms that Morecambe would not be competitive in Scotland's top division. I think that's being disrespectful (unintentionally) and I don't see a basis for that statement. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67743726 If I were a Morecambe fan I might think Scottish fans were arrogant in the same way Scottish fans feel the English are arrogant and look down at our game. I think Morecambe & their fans don't have the slightest interest in how they would fare in Scottish football anymore than they'd be interested in how they'd fare in Puerto Rican football . And they certainly wouldn't pay attention to the semi-literate ravings of the idiot McFadden who I doubt many would have heard of in any case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, kennie makevin said: I think Morecambe & their fans don't have the slightest interest in how they would fare in Scottish football anymore than they'd be interested in how they'd fare in Puerto Rican football . Good. I couldnt give a f**k about Morecambe either, to the point ive no idea what division theyre even in. England is over 10 times bigger than Scotland and the EFL suckles from the teet of the richest league on the planet. Youd have to be an absolute moron with a brain sized cavity in their head to not expect their lower divisions to have similar quality to our top flight splattered throughout it. Theres National League sides down there from larger cities than some of our top flight sides and folk are acting that its some horrendous mark against Scottish football that thet get bigger crowds. Its neighbour watching of the most pathetic degree and any grown man involving themselves in such shite seriously needs to find another way of dealing with their balding middle aged crisis. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 9 hours ago, on the bonnie bonnie banks said: 2426255 makes valid points and appears to be the only one in tune with the current situation engulfing the beautiful game throughout Scotland, highlighted so eloquently by the great one. One thing's for certain, there's no going back now and the game will either improve because of it or fade into obscurity due to its failure to change the way the SPL is set up. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, hk blues said: You've missed the point somehow given this thread is 25 pages long! The controversy is nothing to do with the assertion that English football is better than Scottish, but that a Div 2 side in England is 100 times better than teams in our top league. OK, we'll allow him the exaggeration but still it's a nonsense comment and anything but an honest opinion IMHO. I disagree. Adams is entitled to any opinion he likes, but he is a well know cùnt and no-one likes him, except for Roy McGregor. He might be right for all I know, but he's an unpleasant character, who's manner of delivery wouldn't persuade you to get out of a burning car. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pens_Dark Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 8 hours ago, Stevie Kirk said: This thread Agree. Time to close this and forget it ever happened. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) No-one is being forced read the contents of this thread or to post in it. The most effective approach is simply to ignore the discussion if it's taken a turn you don't like and leave others to continue. Trying to influence posters to stop the conversation will probably just end up in disappointment. I think this thread still has a lot more to give personally, so looking forward to that. Edited December 21, 2023 by 2426255 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: Good. I couldnt give a f**k about Morecambe either, to the point ive no idea what division theyre even in. England is over 10 times bigger than Scotland and the EFL suckles from the teet of the richest league on the planet. Youd have to be an absolute moron with a brain sized cavity in their head to not expect their lower divisions to have similar quality to our top flight splattered throughout it. Theres National League sides down there from larger cities than some of our top flight sides and folk are acting that its some horrendous mark against Scottish football that thet get bigger crowds. Its neighbour watching of the most pathetic degree and any grown man involving themselves in such shite seriously needs to find another way of dealing with their balding middle aged crisis. Your ability to spout humourless abuse is to be admired. But why are you so angry ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pens_Dark Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 26 minutes ago, kennie makevin said: Your ability to spout humourless abuse is to be admired. But why are you so angry ? He's right though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on the bonnie bonnie banks Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 2 hours ago, kennie makevin said: Which would be fine if Scottish football was either factually, actually or contractually great. But it's not. It's tedious predictable garbage and the longer that fact is ignored the longer it will stay that way. Well said that man It can't survive in its present form, dull as ditch water. Take a look at the Welsh game, little old Wrexham would be more than a match for any side in the SPL and no doubts the premier league when they get there in a few years time. We have so much to look forward to -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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