KingswellsRed Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 14 minutes ago, Pizzo said: I didnt buy my season ticket this year purely because of VAR. Mainly due to that considine handball at Rugby Park last season. Still went every week but I want the option to bin it. Nice anti VAR banner on display from the fcu at Perth today. Any pictures of this one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Heliums Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 I won't be back to McDiarmid until either (a) VAR is binned or (b) we are relegated and don't have to suffer VAR. Very much aware which of these two options is more likely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) I suppose there's something of an irony in the Aberdeen "End VAR" banner perfectly illustrating how different angles can tell a different story in terms of relative positioning of objects. Edited April 13 by The Master 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 Would be good if we could get some more similar banners in the coming weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 23 hours ago, KingswellsRed said: Any pictures of this one? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted April 14 Share Posted April 14 On 24/03/2024 at 13:50, Zamora Fan said: Nice work to get some momentum going, @HibsFan @VincentGuerin and all. I've sent just a couple of pars to Saints making clear I think it should be scrapped, not tweaked, and saying they will lose my money if they continue to back VAR. Took about 10 mins max. I've long wondered about the viability of doing a proper, representative poll of Scottish top-flight season ticket holders. Having some data to point at would be very useful I think — I suspect most would say it isn't working, and maybe at this stage you could just about get, say, a narrow plurality who think it should be scrapped altogether (though I might be being pessimistic: maybe 80% want it scrapped! If that was the case finding out might force some hands ..) If you asked whether fans would consider binning their season tickets if VAR continued, that would be a good way of making the point about lost income to clubs ... especially as I imagine no one is giving up their season ticket if VAR got scrapped. The problem is, polls are expensive. A poll of season ticket holders would be especially expensive to organize since there representatively aren't that many in Scotland. But polling companies often do freebies for media outlets for the sake of the free publicity ... so if any pollsters are reading, a Scotland only, season ticket only poll would make you a national topic of conversation for weeks. I imagine those at the top of the game in Scotland reckon our opinions will roughly line up with those of the weirdo English premier league fans — YouGov found in October that only 16% of them would scrap it. I think they're wrong. Hide contents We do have this from November, but to me that looks like an internet survey rather than a representative poll https://scottishfsa.org/the-2023-var-survey/ Those are easy to ignore. Any luck with a reply? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 See an article on the BBC about recruiting a new VAR head of referees… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 They're recruiting a new head of referees because Crawford Allan is stepping down. This role existed before VAR so it's not a specific VAR role. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted April 18 Author Share Posted April 18 What is happening today in England with the FA Cup replays backlash is what should’ve happened up here with VAR, except each of our clubs are filled with self-interested wankers who don’t want to admit that they fucked it massively by not consulting the fans first. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Isn't Andrew Dallas the head VAR ref or some shit. But obviously not in charge of referees as a whole. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 9 hours ago, HibsFan said: What is happening today in England with the FA Cup replays backlash is what should’ve happened up here with VAR, except each of our clubs are filled with self-interested wankers who don’t want to admit that they fucked it massively by not consulting the fans first. Yes. No club has yet come out and stated they want it scrapped despite it costing them a lot of money and losing them customers. It simply doesn’t make business sense. Calling for “improvements” to VAR is not good enough as the technology simply isn’t there to improve it in any meaningful way. We are still going to be waiting a few minutes to measure offsides down to millimetres for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 13 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Isn't Andrew Dallas the head VAR ref or some shit. But obviously not in charge of referees as a whole. Dallas and Greg Aitken are full-time VAR referees and don't referee any matches on the pitch any more. I don't think they are "head" in any way though, it's just that they are "specialists". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 13/04/2024 at 23:44, The Master said: I suppose there's something of an irony in the Aberdeen "End VAR" banner perfectly illustrating how different angles can tell a different story in terms of relative positioning of objects. Aye, I know what you mean….. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 hours ago, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: Aye, I know what you mean….. Are you saying you went on one of these and were disappointed you missed the 'c' (as it were)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) Not Scottish, but relevant to Scotland. This is crazy imo although it's been going this way for months. I don't see how this can be resolved if people or even clubs can't grow up. Edited April 21 by 2426255 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 What just happened in the FA cup tells you all you need to know about VAR. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzo Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Admittedly it was the right call but that disallowed goal in the Coventry game scunnered me. VAR is killing the game for match going fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 minutes ago, Pizzo said: Admittedly it was the right call but that disallowed goal in the Coventry game scunnered me. VAR is killing the game for match going fans. It is not even the right call for me. Not clear and obvious. Linesman gave it onside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 121st minute winner after coming from 3-0 down against one of the biggest clubs in the country, to reach your first FA Cup Final since 1987. Ruled out for this, by technology that's not capable of being that precise. One way or another it will kill the game for match going fans. Stadiums soon to be filled with tourists if you're lucky, and nobody if you're not. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vietnam91 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I'm all for benefitting the attacking team unless there's clear air between the lines, the game is about goals after all. Overlapping lines can get in the bin. As fan owned we were consulted at the 11th hour despite a vote being on the cards for a month before it. There are moves to stop that sort of thing going forward. I would have voted for it because my perception is the OF get too many dodgy decisions, however as implemented as a re-refereeing of games has sucked the joy out of live matches. If done right it could be an asset but we really shouldn't be surprised it was rushed in half arsed and is a mess because that is the sort of shit we do as a nation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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