Dan Steele Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 22 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: So Harvie and Sturgeon pulling all the strings...Harvie gets his wish to not have Forbes, and Sturgeon gets 'her' man in, with Swinney. And now, Swinney can do another deal with the Greens in order to get legislation passed,(and the Greens can get the SNP to keep plugging away at their 'Equality' agenda).The continuity,continuity candidate. Exactly the same pattern as the Tories in this parliamentary term...they handed the election of next leader to the members who botched it with Truss, same as the SNP with Yousaf. Next time around they cut the members out (too risky) and put Sunak in, unopposed. Now the SNP cut their members out (in case they plumped for Forbes) and have a Swinney Coronation. Good grief man, that is the wildest take of the day. Harvie & Sturgeon working behind the scenes to co-ordinate this? Greens back in a position of power after showing their naïvety, petulance and inability to attend least pretend to be grown-ups? Their wings are well and truly clipped. An inspired attempt to connect SNP and Tories, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 18 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: No, no really. More sad about the state of Scottish politics, when the Greens can be kicked out of the Cabinet only to effectively return a week later so that they can continue their agenda. And also of the continuing influence of Sturgeon...such is the hatred for Salmond that she can torpedo a deal with Alba and work to get the Greens back in. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jedi2 said: No, no really. More sad about the state of Scottish politics, when the Greens can be kicked out of the Cabinet only to effectively return a week later so that they can continue their agenda. And also of the continuing influence of Sturgeon...such is the hatred for Salmond that she can torpedo a deal with Alba and work to get the Greens back in. Trying to work out what's the worst take - this or the previous pile of drivelling shit you posted. Edited May 2 by DeeTillEhDeh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 42 minutes ago, welshbairn said: You honestly think Scotland would be better off with Ash Regan holding the balance of power? No, he doesn't. He's doing what he always does - making a complete and utter roaring arse of it until he fucks off again. Jedi3 coming soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Scottish Labour would probably require a level of support from the Greens in any future administration. Looking forward to Jedi4's spin when that happens. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, D Angelo Barksdale said: Scottish Labour would probably require a level of support from the Greens in any future administration. Looking forward to Jedi4's spin when that happens. Indeed. Labour, for the most part, supported the recent 'controversial' legislation like GRA and the HCA that are apparently all down to those pesky Greens. Anyway boo to equality! Up with hate! Am sad though that Ash Regan has been denied the chance, by Sturgeon and the Green Brigade, to become our very own Liz Truss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakedee Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Jedi2 said: So Harvie and Sturgeon pulling all the strings...Harvie gets his wish to not have Forbes, and Sturgeon gets 'her' man in, with Swinney. And now, Swinney can do another deal with the Greens in order to get legislation passed,(and the Greens can get the SNP to keep plugging away at their 'Equality' agenda).The continuity,continuity candidate. Exactly the same pattern as the Tories in this parliamentary term...they handed the election of next leader to the members who botched it with Truss, same as the SNP with Yousaf. Next time around they cut the members out (too risky) and put Sunak in, unopposed. Now the SNP cut their members out (in case they plumped for Forbes) and have a Swinney Coronation. VID-20210214-WA0002.mp4 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Yes or No on this one then...(and so glad to see the Nats celebrating the return of Green votes to their govt) Is a Swinney led govt going to achieve the starting negotiations on Independence for Scotland this year? (Following the GE victory he is about to claim)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Jedi2 said: So Harvie and Sturgeon pulling all the strings...Harvie gets his wish to not have Forbes, and Sturgeon gets 'her' man in, with Swinney. And now, Swinney can do another deal with the Greens in order to get legislation passed,(and the Greens can get the SNP to keep plugging away at their 'Equality' agenda).The continuity,continuity candidate. Exactly the same pattern as the Tories in this parliamentary term...they handed the election of next leader to the members who botched it with Truss, same as the SNP with Yousaf. Next time around they cut the members out (too risky) and put Sunak in, unopposed. Now the SNP cut their members out (in case they plumped for Forbes) and have a Swinney Coronation. Whilst I'm not suggesting that Swinney won't win, you're jumping the gun here, Dr. Jedi. Swinney has just been on the radio saying that he's presuming nothing, as nominations for SNP leader don't close until Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 So you had Humza on the phone to Regan on Sunday night or Monday morning still trying to do a deal to keep him in post. Meanwhile Sturgeon is briefing that he will resign. But she didn't have any influence on that decision. Patrick Harvie..consistently on record saying that he wouldn't work with a Forbes led govt...but that had no influence in today's events 'Boo to Equality, up with hate'. The only 'hate' around in recent times has been that directed toward a woman who expressed her opposition to some Green policies based on her religious beliefs. Humzas religious beliefs (from a tradition with a similar view on said Green policies) meanwhile were celebrated. In addition of course, we have a Hate Crimes Bill framed to catch out people who think the Cass Report might be 'scientific'. But, meanwhile the Greens are back, so raise a toast all round. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 18 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: Yes or No on this one then...(and so glad to see the Nats celebrating the return of Green votes to their govt) Is a Swinney led govt going to achieve the starting negotiations on Independence for Scotland this year? (Following the GE victory he is about to claim)? No, he said today that the priority will be improving people's lives by effective government to bring more onside with the independence project. Without a clear majority there would be no point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ScotiaNostra Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) it is what it is, lets see what Swinney does. It wont be easy to unite the party but he or Flynn were probably the only 2 who had a chance of doing that. So you can see the logic in going with Swinney. It feels like a caretaker job but time will tell. Edited May 2 by ScotiaNostra 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 15 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: So you had Humza on the phone to Regan on Sunday night or Monday morning still trying to do a deal to keep him in post. Meanwhile Sturgeon is briefing that he will resign. But she didn't have any influence on that decision. Patrick Harvie..consistently on record saying that he wouldn't work with a Forbes led govt...but that had no influence in today's events 'Boo to Equality, up with hate'. The only 'hate' around in recent times has been that directed toward a woman who expressed her opposition to some Green policies based on her religious beliefs. Humzas religious beliefs (from a tradition with a similar view on said Green policies) meanwhile were celebrated. In addition of course, we have a Hate Crimes Bill framed to catch out people who think the Cass Report might be 'scientific'. But, meanwhile the Greens are back, so raise a toast all round. Genuinely, all I’m getting from this is that you think transphobia is just swell. Am I correct? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 18 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: So you had Humza on the phone to Regan on Sunday night or Monday morning still trying to do a deal to keep him in post. Meanwhile Sturgeon is briefing that he will resign. But she didn't have any influence on that decision. Patrick Harvie..consistently on record saying that he wouldn't work with a Forbes led govt...but that had no influence in today's events If I were Kate Forbes I’d likely rationalise that a cabinet position in a government that can function would stand me in better stead for the future than the leadership of one which couldn’t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, ScotiaNostra said: it is what it is, lets see what Swinney does. It wont be easy to unite the party but he or Flynn were probably the only 2 who had a chance of doing that. So you can see the logic in going with Swinney. It feels like a caretaker job but time will tell. I'm a bit surprised that he wants it at all TBH. I figured that he'd realised that being leader of the party was a step too far, considering nobody enjoyed his last tenure in the job, but obviously not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 6 minutes ago, BFTD said: I'm a bit surprised that he wants it at all TBH. I figured that he'd realised that being leader of the party was a step too far, considering nobody enjoyed his last tenure in the job, but obviously not. I dont think he does want it, he just feels obliged to take it, hence the caretaker role. Hes just to get through the next 2 years and hand over. That time it will be a contest probably between a few. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, Jedi2 said: Yes or No on this one then...(and so glad to see the Nats celebrating the return of Green votes to their govt) Is a Swinney led govt going to achieve the starting negotiations on Independence for Scotland this year? (Following the GE victory he is about to claim)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Genuinely, all I’m getting from this is that you think transphobia is just swell. Am I correct? Point out a transphobic comment in anything I have said then. Clue: Saying that the SNP will be back on board with the Greens 'Equality' agenda in any sane world is not transphobic. (I appreciate that in witch finder/thought/Hate Crime Scotland it is probably considered to be such, but really it's not The Greens are on record as saying that their 'top' priority is to promote Trans Rights. Should that be on a 'programme' for a govt? Don't see why not. Should it be above Education, Health, Transport, Poverty, Crime, the Environment, Trade Union Rights, Policing, Fair Pay, Reducing violence against women and girls, Immigration, Housing...? I'll let you decide. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 2 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: The Greens are on record as saying that their 'top' priority is to promote Trans Rights. Can you provide evidence of this claim? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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