Granny Danger Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 6 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Why the rich of course. Primarily through the mechanism of interest on UK Goverment bonds. That will only be a very small part of it. The bulk will be funnelled back through the effective privatisation of public services. The cost of an agency nurse working within the NHS is significantly more than a salaried nurse and the difference doesn’t go to the nurse themself it goes to the agency. The same for doctors, consultants and various other posts; the agencies make enormous sums and it’s all coming out of the public purse. The same for private sector care homes for the elderly, for children, for dementia sufferers. The same for privatisation of the prison and offender related services. The same for government contracting where ‘specialist’ companies and oligopolies ensure money is spent in a tightly controlled circle. The same for defence contractors. And there will be many more. As @scottsdad says the tax burden is at its highest level ever but the reason this is not being translated into a high level of public services is that it’s being siphoned of to private companies right across the board. And just wait until a future government realises that the there is need to take back the English Water Authorities into public ownership as they’ve been bled dry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Oops. Junior doctors in England will be going on strike for 5 days in the week leading up the general election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Junior doctors in England are to stage a five-day strike in the lead-up to the election in their long-running pay dispute with the government. British Medical Association (BMA) members will walk out from 07:00 BST on 27 June - a week before election day. Junior doctors call five-day strike just before election - BBC News Nice timing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 51 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Oops. Junior doctors in England will be going on strike for 5 days in the week leading up the general election. Woke Marxist insurrectionist vegans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 40 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said: Junior doctors in England are to stage a five-day strike in the lead-up to the election in their long-running pay dispute with the government. British Medical Association (BMA) members will walk out from 07:00 BST on 27 June - a week before election day. Junior doctors call five-day strike just before election - BBC News Nice timing. Uncomfortable for Tory and Labour. Will Starmer back the strikers? I doubt it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, Granny Danger said: That will only be a very small part of it. The bulk will be funnelled back through the effective privatisation of public services. The cost of an agency nurse working within the NHS is significantly more than a salaried nurse and the difference doesn’t go to the nurse themself it goes to the agency. The same for doctors, consultants and various other posts; the agencies make enormous sums and it’s all coming out of the public purse. The same for private sector care homes for the elderly, for children, for dementia sufferers. The same for privatisation of the prison and offender related services. The same for government contracting where ‘specialist’ companies and oligopolies ensure money is spent in a tightly controlled circle. The same for defence contractors. And there will be many more. As @scottsdad says the tax burden is at its highest level ever but the reason this is not being translated into a high level of public services is that it’s being siphoned of to private companies right across the board. And just wait until a future government realises that the there is need to take back the English Water Authorities into public ownership as they’ve been bled dry. Fair point however you need to remember that if services were not privatised, the UK Government would have to borrow more money to fund them which comes at an interest cost. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 20 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Fair point however you need to remember that if services were not privatised, the UK Government would have to borrow more money to fund them which comes at an interest cost. Am i being whooshed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 minutes ago, coprolite said: Am i being whooshed? Dash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) On 25/05/2024 at 15:04, JS_FFC said: Relaxing day off at home cancelled? This makes me giggle a wee bit. Why is it assumed folk are always "the best and bravest" etc when some of them will have spent their Forces career sat in an office doing payroll for Adjutant's Corps? Edited May 29 by Boo Khaki 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 At times like this, we must remember the key role that will be played by the papers. It is also an opportunity to remind us all of one of the best bits from "Yes, Prime Minister"... Sir Humphrey : The only way to understand the Press is to remember that they pander to their readers' prejudices. Jim Hacker : Don't tell me about the Press. I know *exactly* who reads the papers. The Daily Mirror is read by people who think they run the country; The Guardian is read by people who think they *ought* to run the country; The Times is read by the people who actually *do* run the country; The Daily Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country; The Financial Times is read by people who *own* the country; The Morning Star is read by people who think the country ought to be run by *another* country; and The Daily Telegraph is read by people who think it is. Sir Humphrey : Oh, and Prime Minister, what about the people who read The Sun? Bernard Woolley : Sun readers don't care who runs the country as long as she's got big tits. A pretty accurate summary. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Who are the Sun backing then? And Pics or GTF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) I have been voting since late 80s and have never been more aware of a need to vote to get things changed but less impressed or desired to vote for any of the mobs that are in front of me. Tories - Sunak, they spent millions on a media briefing room, and he launches the campaign not in a room with a roof, but outside in the rain without a brolly or jacket. Ready for the future, twat not even ready for the weather. And that without BJ, Truss, Hunt, Mone, Gove, Partygate, Brexit, boats, Rwanda and a million other things. Labour - Starmer has less backbone than a jellyfish and will literally change any policy, dump any belief and sell any self-respect if it gets him elected, and he seems set on a plane of, things are shit but I'm too scared to change anything. Lib Dems - The Carry On Party, Davey falling off his paddleboard yesterday, nearly off a bike today. As relevant to a 2020s UK as a Sid James 70s innuendo. SNP - The last 10 months have been a campervan crash of disaster, can't tell if it incompetence or corruption but just seem to be in a place where they looking to be better than the rest, who are all appalling, and miserably failing. Reform - Grifting fascists I will vote for Lord Bin-Head backed by the Looney Party if they release a single remix called 'Things Can Only Get Shitter' Makes as much sense as anything else. Edited May 29 by MEADOWXI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Whoever made this deserves a pint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, MEADOWXI said: I have been voting since late 80s I started at 18. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: Who are the Sun backing then? And Pics or GTF A joint ticket of William Hague and Stephen Flynn, but only ever seen from directly above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Another day, what negative snp headlines can we put up today, lets go with ipad guy again Meanwhile it's going to cost £100m to fix the woodside m8 Bridge. Why exactly, a scandalous amount No matter, not worth reporting on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 18 minutes ago, Binos said: Another day, what negative snp headlines can we put up today, lets go with ipad guy again Meanwhile it's going to cost £100m to fix the woodside m8 Bridge. Why exactly, a scandalous amount No matter, not worth reporting on £152 million, not £100 million. https://news.stv.tv/west-central/major-m8-roadworks-delayed-by-over-a-year-as-costs-soar-by-71m 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 1 minute ago, Soapy FFC said: £152 million, not £100 million. https://news.stv.tv/west-central/major-m8-roadworks-delayed-by-over-a-year-as-costs-soar-by-71m Bbc are more interested in 11k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 It’s been a slightly better few days for the Conservatives since Sunak’s “definitely not a reset” reset last Saturday. Not that they’ve particularly done anything impressive, but the string of gaffes from the first few days of the campaign seems to have given way to a slightly more professionally run operation at CCHQ. Meanwhile, Labour have had a mixed few days. The business endorsements have helped but the row over far left deselections is taking up some unwanted front page space. It’ll be interesting to see polls over the weekend and early next week. If we don’t see any signs of a tightening despite a better few days for the Tories, I think Sir Keir is on track for a landslide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 I'm sure I said a wee while ago that folk shouldn't underestimate the ability of Labour to f things up in the run-up to the election. Starmer is now having trouble with his left wing and deseletion/non-selection of apparently popular candidates. Early days. Plenty more time to f things up even more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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