Left Back Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Lurkst said: Left Back taking to the crease for Labour here like 1981 Ashes vintage Ian Botham. Insightful stuff. I’ll also challenge you to quote where I’ve defended or promoted Labours actions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 41 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Ed Davey blaming the SNP now, what a fucking irrelevant walloper - he is a complete dick as well, esp after Hoyle has had to come back and complain. God bless P&B giving me my bi-monthly reminder who the Lib Dem leader is. I forget sometimes honestly. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 1 hour ago, btb said: A humanitarian ceasefire is just a continuation of the status quo but the SNP should accept that Starmer/Labour outmanoeuvred them on this occasion and accept the watered down motion - this toys out the pram stuff from the SNP allying themselves with the Tories is unedifying. Outmanoeured by a bent Speaker?....aye ok 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden God Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 It’s not the Government’s fault, it’s not the main oppositions fault, it’s not even the second biggest oppositions fault … it’s the Muslims. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 14 minutes ago, Left Back said: If you could quote where I’ve praised any of the actions today that would be useful to refresh my memory as I must be going senile. All I’ve done is comment on what has happened. 1 hour ago, Left Back said: They can’t call for an unconditional ceasefire. If they’re a government in waiting they’ll have to do business with Israel in the future. Like it or not Israel is an ally and trading partner of the UK and it’s a bad move to openly condemn them and give the impression they don’t care about the hostages or Israel’s security. 1 hour ago, Left Back said: For the reasons I already stated. In the UK we also have the complication of our relationship with the US to consider. Again like it or not we still have to do business with them in the future and don’t want to alienate them. There is an effective Jewish lobby in US politics/society. Very rarely are these things as simple as people imagine. These both read to me that you believe that Labour were right not to support calls for a ceasefire for the sake of our relationship with Israel. If that’s not what you think, then please clarify. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/61908 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, TONTROOPER said: Outmanoeured by a bent Speaker?....aye ok 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, btb said: ^^^ Robinson for HOC Speaker....yeh!!!!! woop woop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 14 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: These both read to me that you believe that Labour were right not to support calls for a ceasefire for the sake of our relationship with Israel. If that’s not what you think, then please clarify. That’s an explanation of foreign policy considerations that governments will analyse. It isn’t my personal views. Too many people take an automatic binary view of a particular topic. It’s an art form on this forum. It’s also the norm that it’s a case study in groupthink. Making a comment that doesn’t conform to that view does not make me an apologist for Labour, or Starmer, or any other politician or party. I’m sure I’ve said on here many times I think they’re all a bunch of wanks. Edited February 21 by Left Back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Just now, Left Back said: That’s an explanation of foreign policy considerations that governments will analyse. It isn’t my personal views. Too many people take an automatic binary view of a particular topic. It’s an art form on this forum. It’s also the norm that it’s a case study in groupthink. Making a comment that doesn’t conform to that view does not make me an apologist for Labour, of Starmer, or any other politician or party. I’m sure I’ve said on here many times I think they’re all s bunch of wanks. I’m not going to apologise for taking a binary view on ”is supporting genocide bad” mate 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertodev Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 18 minutes ago, The Golden God said: It’s not the Government’s fault, it’s not the main oppositions fault, it’s not even the second biggest oppositions fault … it’s the Muslims. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 5 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: I’m not going to apologise for taking a binary view on ”is supporting genocide bad” mate Do you believe that’s the position of any politician or party in the UK? ”Right lads, let’s back Israel ‘cos we all love a bit of genocide eh? We can start a book on how many die to make it interesting” ETA as much as I think they’re all wanks I don’t believe for one second any of them are backing genocide and would all want the bloodshed to stop. Edited February 21 by Left Back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: Do you believe that’s the position of any politician or party in the UK? ”Right lads, let’s back Israel ‘cos we all love a bit of genocide eh? We can start a book on how many die to make it interesting” I mean, yes I do. This is a country with Michael Gove in it. But the main point is, I don’t particularly give a f**k why they continue to support the genocide, the reality is that they do. And I hope that all of them are viciously hounded for every remaining second of their life over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 9 minutes ago, orfc said: SIR KEIR STARMER KC PM TO BE 1 SNP / TORY ALLIANCE 0 So many sizzling like f**k posters denied their daily "Labour is crap" feel good post, SKS has ragdolled the lot of you Yeah mate, that’s the most important thing here. The genocide happening is just a secondary issue. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 42 minutes ago, orfc said: SIR KEIR STARMER KC PM TO BE 1 SNP / TORY ALLIANCE 0 So many sizzling like f**k posters denied their daily "Labour is crap" feel good post, SKS has ragdolled the lot of you Last time I looked..'ragdolled' wasnt offered by any reputable dictionary as a definition for 'THREATENING Lindsay Hoyle. Edited February 21 by TONTROOPER 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 4 hours ago, orfc said: Oh noes, has the SNP / Tory plan of trying to give labour a hospital pass collapsed on its arse? 27 minutes ago, orfc said: SIR KEIR STARMER KC PM TO BE 1 SNP / TORY ALLIANCE 0 So many sizzling like f**k posters denied their daily "Labour is crap" feel good post, SKS has ragdolled the lot of you Just now, orfc said: It's a non issue in this context, Gaza's just a handy prop for a bit of "look at me" posturing for politicians This was all about bending labour over and the SNP-TORY tag team are raging When orfc starts trolling 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, orfc said: It's a non issue in this context, Gaza's just a handy prop for a bit of "look at me" posturing for politicians This was all about bending labour over and the SNP-TORY tag team are raging This was all about Labour being in the pocket, petrified of the Jewish movement within the party. They are only playing politics to look like Tories. Utter scumbags. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wee-Bey Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 It's obvious that the historic crimes we're witnessing, the crimes beamed, often live, onto our phones and TV screens wouldn't immediately stop if the British parliament voted for a ceasefire. The idea that it doesn't matter is of course nonsense. It's helpful to know which of our elected representatives are pro ethnic cleansing and mass murder and who isn’t. Or who would stoop to bribing or threatening the Speaker of the House (also a c**t for clarification) in order to appear like they're against it. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Today has only confirmed that there is really no point in the SNP or Plaid continuing to sit in Westminster. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AUcal Posted February 21 Popular Post Share Posted February 21 (edited) How many opportunities have Labour had to table a motion to call for a ceasefire? Yet they supported the ongoing atrocities in Gaza and said f**k all. Only when another party tables a motion, that risks showing Labour up for being a rabble of spineless charlatans, do they threaten the speaker to accept their amendment so that the aforementioned motion isn't heard and voted on (all while pretending a ceasefire call was their idea all along). To accuse others of playing political games immediately after their actions today is nothing short of remarkable. And they're supposed to be the opposition to one of the most corrupt, heartless and all round cretinous right wing governments in modern memory. Fucking state of British politics. Edited February 21 by AUcal 31 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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