Mark Connolly Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 1 minute ago, A Diamond For Me said: In another, more sensible, world, these people would be getting asked what they thought reasonable to give these lobbyists in exchange for these gifts. I'm sure Phillipson really did just want her daughter to be able to go to a pop concert (and I can't imagine someone on a mere MP's salary could expect to buy such things for themselves), but whoever gave her those tickets wasn't doing so because they thought it'd be nice. I can appreciate that Kieth obviously can't afford hospitality tickets for the football himself, but was the person who gave him those tickets really doing so because they just love how big of a Gunners fan Sir Kieth is. What's the value of those gifts to the person giving them, what can they expect to get for their investment? Dougie Alexander was on GMS this morning saying they only did it to even the playing field with the Tories. He also said they had drawn a line under it and it was time to move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Incredible stuff and I'd absolutely encourage these idiots to keep digging holes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Great day at the labour conference Protesters hauled out by the neck Reeves telling everybody that they have ended all the public sector pay disputes whilst at the same time one union saying they have rejected the offer down south And the freebie stories keep on dropping 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 Lol. Replace 'believes' with 'desperately hopes' here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, SandyCromarty said: What pisses me off is that they keep quoting this £22 Million black hole was only found when they got into government. That is a total lie, John Swinney in two of the debates said to Labour that there was a Black financial hole they would have to address when they got in. What he got wrong was the amount as he said it was £18 Million. It’s billions on millions. £22m isn’t worth bothering about in the UK finances 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, I Clavdivs said: Millionaire Sarwar and 158k a year Viceroy Murray accepting freebie hospitality at Liverpool over weekend.....London Labour are beyond parody even after only a couple of months on office . I honestly don’t get this - with the optics in the last week, who decided this was a good idea? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 47 minutes ago, 101 said: It’s billions on millions. £22m isn’t worth bothering about in the UK finances My mistake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzz Killington Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 38 minutes ago, Buzz Killington said: George Orwell was more right wing than Keir Starmer is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Rider Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, Wee-Bey said: Lol. Replace 'believes' with 'desperately hopes' here. Maybe thats where wee Ian Murray's warchest money will be going???? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 2 hours ago, MazzyStar said: George Orwell was more right wing than Keir Starmer is. Feel free to expand on this gibberish. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thane of Cawdor said: Feel free to expand on this gibberish. He famously made list of a large number of communists, anarchists and anti colonialists and gave it to British intelligence agencies. He had reactionary views about the working classes and Irish people and was also an anti semite. He was also a police officer in colonial India. Edited September 23 by MazzyStar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I think I respect people more who support the Tories now than support Labour. At least Tories aren't lying to themselves that they're the goodies. Labour's Chancellor is to the right of Sunak. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c99vnllgy3lo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 8 hours ago, Wee-Bey said: Incredible stuff and I'd absolutely encourage these idiots to keep digging holes. Are these people spinning or stupid? When the owners of an tax-haven hedge fund give you £4 million ahead of an election you're obviously going to win, it's not because they like your politics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 On 22/09/2024 at 18:21, 101 said: My kid wanted to go so I took a gift from a lobbying group, what a mental excuse. Why would her kid be there anyway given she is presumably working when there folk are trying to influence her? The only way her daughter found out about the offer of tickets is because she told her. If she was considering turning down the tickets she wouldn't have said anything. Which means she always intended to take them. Tories - OG version, not this lot - are winning the next general election for sure. This lot are halfwits who only won because they kept their mouths shut and the Tories had been in power too long. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Given how much capital they made out of the Michael Matheson iPad thing a few months ago, you would think "it woz my kids wot done it!" would be close to the bottom on the list of defences fhat these pathetic Labour troughers are attempting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 On 08/08/2024 at 12:47, Granny Danger said: I blame Mike Oldfield. Ommagawd !!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 Labour have just won a massive majority on the back of an undemocratic electoral system that saw them getting that huge majority by winning one third of the votes. They have effectively eliminated any chance of dissent within their own ranks by selecting the biggest bunch of right-of-centre boot lickers to become MPs. In other words Starmer is virtually untouchable for the next five years. Labour can bear the brunt of the lost confidence and unpopularity from the general public that has already begin to materialise. They will do what they want for the next two to three years without listening to anyone including the Trade Unions who fund them. They will then try to offer sweeteners in the last couple of years of the Parliament and in all honesty it’s far too early to know if this will work or not. Starmer won’t be too bothered either way, either a second term or some very nice, well paid sinecures that I’m sure he’s already laying the foundations for. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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A Diamond For Me Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 6 hours ago, GordonS said: Are these people spinning or stupid? When the owners of an tax-haven hedge fund give you £4 million ahead of an election you're obviously going to win, it's not because they like your politics. In Streeting's case? The latter. Two literal planks would be a veritable intellectual powerhouse in comparison. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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