Clown Job Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, scottsdad said: Caught a bit of Starmer on the BBC breakfast this morning. He made it half way in to the first sentence of his first answer to a question to mention that his dad had been a toolmaker and his mum a nurse. Getting into Jeremy Hunt's "entrepreneur" realm now. The obvious answer to that is we can see your Dad was a toolmaker with one look at you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Suspect Device said: The obvious answer to that is we can see your Dad was a toolmaker with one look at you. Quote Sir Keir Starmer joked that Boris Johnson's father was a "tool maker" during his speech at Labour party conference. Speaking about his "two rocks" in life - family and work - the Labour leader told the crowd that was not from a privileged background before taking a jibe at the prime minister. "My dad was a toolmaker, although in a way, so was Boris Johnson’s," he said. While his comment on the PM earned applause from the audience, Mr Starmer also faced heckles as he made his opening remarks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 11 hours ago, Suspect Device said: Labour can't win an election. They have to hope that the Tories manage to lose. That doesn't appear likely given that no matter what the c***s do, no matter how bad things get, folk still seem happy to vote for them. You are totally correct and that is depressing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Starmer out of touch with public opinion again. Who’d have thunk it? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/15-minimum-wage-starmer-labour-b1930057.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 There's an argument that the Labour landslide in 1997 was, in England at least, less about people voting for them and more that virtually everybody was heart sick of the disgusting Tories. The Conservatives are Teflon now. Incompetence, corruption, shagging anything that moves...these things no longer affect their electability. I shudder to think how bad things will have to get before they lose votes, but it's a long way off yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 There's an argument that the Labour landslide in 1997 was, in England at least, less about people voting for them and more that virtually everybody was heart sick of the disgusting Tories. The Conservatives are Teflon now. Incompetence, corruption, shagging anything that moves...these things no longer affect their electability. I shudder to think how bad things will have to get before they lose votes, but it's a long way off yet.Basically until they have to start pissing off pensioners with inheritances to leave. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said: Basically until they have to start pissing off pensioners with inheritances to leave. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk They'll get away with pushing that a wee bit too. Every pensioner knows that Labour are coming for their savings, what with all of their socialisms 'n' that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 Was there any seats at last UK election that Labour came close to winning? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said: Was there any seats at last UK election that Labour came close to winning? Be fair. They won a handful of seats from...erm...sitting former Labour MPs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, BFTD said: Be fair. They won a handful of seats from...erm...sitting former Labour MPs. sorry I meant in Scotland where they only won 1. I was just thinking if there was any seats they came close to winning where if they did somehow against all odds become slightly more popular again they might win 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, BigDoddyKane said: sorry I meant in Scotland where they only won 1. I was just thinking if there was any seats they came close to winning where if they did somehow against all odds become slightly more popular again they might win Just had a quick scan. They were behind by about 5,000 votes in a lot of seats around Glasgow/Lanarkshire, some a bit closer. East Lothian by about 4,000. Kirkcaldy would be a toss-up. Even more remarkable than the number of seats they've shed in the past twenty years is the sheer volume of votes they've lost. They're nowhere near contention in the majority of Scotland, picking up only a fifth or a quarter that the winning candidate had in the majority of areas. They've essentially swapped places with the SNP, then dropped a bit more support for good measure. I know politics is cyclical and all that, but it's hard to see where the votes are coming from in the near future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, BFTD said: Just had a quick scan. They were behind by about 5,000 votes in a lot of seats around Glasgow/Lanarkshire, some a bit closer. East Lothian by about 4,000. Kirkcaldy would be a toss-up. Even more remarkable than the number of seats they've shed in the past twenty years is the sheer volume of votes they've lost. They're nowhere near contention in the majority of Scotland, picking up only a fifth or a quarter that the winning candidate had in the majority of areas. They've essentially swapped places with the SNP, then dropped a bit more support for good measure. I know politics is cyclical and all that, but it's hard to see where the votes are coming from in the near future. Yeah at this moment in time its deosnt look likely at all, things appear to have changed too much 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 7 hours ago, BigDoddyKane said: Was there any seats at last UK election that Labour came close to winning? There was a load of seats with thin majorities in 2017 that Labour failed to take 2 years later and haemorrhaged votes in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 2, 2021 Share Posted October 2, 2021 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 No chance Ian Murray's one of them, is there... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Looks like Starmer is having a real positive impact for Labour on public opinion. Not. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/oct/03/labour-conference-fails-to-give-party-a-bounce-in-opinion-polls 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 6 hours ago, tamthebam said: No chance Ian Murray's one of them, is there... Because he turned his coat quite some time ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Murray’s not going to defect to the Tories. He’s clever enough to know that a centrist cosplaying as soft left is exactly what the people of Edinburgh (and indeed, Scotland) want. All of the recent election results prove that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 (edited) Imagine leaving Starmer's labour party because they're too left wing. It's likely made up by the hack or some spin doctor. Edited October 3, 2021 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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