VictorOnopko Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 28 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Gareth Southgate is/was England's luckiest manager. They will live to regret this. FIFY. He had several spawney knock-out draws and still managed to nearly f*ck the latest one up only to be bailed out by a very unlikely 94th minute overhead kick against the 48th ranked team in the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 59 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: The domestic season has started. I meant the league campaign Sir. Thank you. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 36 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Gareth Southgate is/was England's greatest manager. They will live to regret this. A living Alf Ramsay might have questioned your assertion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Michael W said: Previous managers were eliminated in the group stages of WC2014 and by Iceland at Euro 2016. The luck of the draw is one thing, but he avoided the banana skins and did what he needed to. They were always just beaten by a better team in their exits under him and avoided embarassments. They were crap to watch, right enough, but his achievements are difficult to argue with. That was one manager, and they had a relatively crap squad at the time. Avoiding an Iceland moment is a point in his favour (though he was very close against Slovakia) but it's become a bit of a myth that England always made a joke exit from the tournament pre-Southgate. That game was an exception. Most of the time they take care of business against the diddy sides and then get dumped out by the first properly good team they play in the knockouts. Even in 2014, they went out in the groups because they lost to Italy and a very good Uruguay team. Southgate has essentially carried on the usual pattern, just with more favourable draws. Edited July 16 by DC92 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 46 minutes ago, Michael W said: Previous managers were eliminated in the group stages of WC2014 and by Iceland at Euro 2016. The luck of the draw is one thing, but he avoided the banana skins and did what he needed to. They were always just beaten by a better team in their exits under him and avoided embarassments. They were crap to watch, right enough, but his achievements are difficult to argue with. The Euro 2016 (and WC 2014) squads were dogshit compared to their 2024 offering, hence my point about him having a far superior squad than his predecessors. That has played a huge part in him getting them to 2 finals and a semi final in recent tournaments. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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itzdrk Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Nigel Cardigan u will live 4 eva 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Claudia Gentile said: I don't think there's anyone alive who writes as they speak - or speaks how they write - than Ronay. His contributions to Football Weekly are just empty contrarion questions delivered like he's solved the meaning of life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Dunfermline Don said: I see the Southgate situation as similar to McIness at Aberdeen. He stabilised them and brought the team almost within reach of a bigger prize, but couldn’t quite get over the finishing line. Discontent among a section of the fanbase demanding a change. Whether England will now get a new manager every year remains to be seen though. I think you're spot on. All the way down to forcing square pegs into round holes and trying to play a certain way when the players obviously fit a different system. I'd still have Derek take over from Clarke when the time comes though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 I actually think Southgate has done a fantastic, but not quite spectacular job. Its very obvious that he's created a real team ethos and the players have a togetherness that the likes of the previous generation(s) never managed. His comments on entitlement, expectation etc. ahead of the Switzerland game also suggest to me that he "gets it" when it comes to the English media and the worst elements of their support. Football wise, it's very hard to argue with qualification at a canter, two Euro finals, coming within penalties of a trophy in one and in the other losing to a late goal to a very, very good Spain team. Obviously he gets criticism for the team not being "exciting" but international football is a results game first and foremost. I also think being England manager is "damned if you do, damned if you don't" and you'll get pelters regardless - if he'd dropped Kane and Bellingham and they'd lost we all know he'd have been pilloried for dropping the superstars, even by people who'd been calling for him to do just that. I don't blame him from walking away from what must be one of the most thankless jobs in football but equally the English media, and some of their fans, might find that they should have been more careful with what they wished for... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Apparently he's on the phone to the FA right now... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiblue Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Thought he would of waited around. for his knighthood..Sir Southgate of the waistcoat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 hour ago, Dunfermline Don said: I see the Southgate situation as similar to McIness at Aberdeen. He stabilised them and brought the team almost within reach of a bigger prize, but couldn’t quite get over the finishing line. Discontent among a section of the fanbase demanding a change. Whether England will now get a new manager every year remains to be seen though. If they appoint Glass, Goodwin or Robson next I would be happy. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 My prediction is Lee Carsley ( current under-21 manager). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 On the JustTheTalk boards they are screaming for Klopp. Aye, right, keep wishing, lads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Ally McCoist must be in with a shout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 29 minutes ago, KirkieRR said: On the JustTheTalk boards they are screaming for Klopp. Aye, right, keep wishing, lads. I don’t actually think he’d do a particularly good job given the limited time he’d have with players to get his points across. He’s recently turned down stuff so he can have a break from football, has he not? As I said, Frank Lampard for me. I want them finishing behind Paraguay and Senegal at the next World Cup, and he’s the man to do it. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 I just got an email offering me one of these.. https://www.clickcaststone.co.uk/products/others/shop/england-euro-2024-finalists-engraved-brick/?utm_source=Ibstock+Customer+Mailing+List&utm_campaign=9c0c848c92-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2024_07_16_10_46&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_-9c0c848c92-[LIST_EMAIL_ID] Haud me back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Kite Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 The Scouse Not English crew would either go mad if Klopp took the England job, or overlay their socialist principles on the national team support. Whilst it could be interesting, I loved Klopp at Liverpool and would not want him anywhere near the job because of the hassle. Good look to Southgate and I hope his agent steps up. Plenty of telly work out there. Let's see who this miracle-worker is who can, as they say, take us to the "next level". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Thumper said: It's a belter. That it gets better every two years is the icing on the cake. I hope it causes literal bleeding pain to Skinner and Baddiel every time they hear it. Southgate leaving is terrible news for them. For all his reputation as a cardigan, he somehow managed to keep a lid on them for long enough that people grew to think they'd changed somehow. Whoever they get in next will either clamp down on the egos and have them in open mutiny, or let them do what they want and get them pumped senseless by any side that isn't overawed by them. You know the funniest thing about it.... The line "30 years of Hurt" is in there because 30 years feels like a long time for them.... And by the absolute earliest next opportunity for them to put that right, it will have doubled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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