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Carrying on from a debate about the cost of an away ticket for the Dundee Derby. 

What's your cut off point for how much you would be willing to pay for a Scottish top flight league game.

Although I can afford to, paying £34 to watch a Scottish top flight game is above what I would be willing to pay, Dundee Derby or not, adding my 2 teenage sons at £20 each, then we are up at £74, not including food.

The directors have got the price right though, as it will no doubt be a sell out, because others are willing to pay this. Fair enough. But imo, the price doesn't meet the value. 

For me, around £28 is currently my absolute max, and around £15 for the teenage boys.

How much does it need to be for you to say, "nah, f**k that"?

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£25 feels like a limit and I'm not sure why. Our PATG price is apparently £27 and to me that's too much despite it only being a £2 difference.

There should be a set maximum price, and I think...

Adults - £25

OAP/13-18 - £10

U12s - £5

... should be the maximum you could charge, with ideally it being lower for all?

Clubs will never do it though, regardless of how much income they make elsewhere.

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I couldn’t give you an exact figure, as it varies depending on how appealing a fixture is.

For example, right now surely Dundee fans are more willing to splash out than any other time for 20 years or so? A good season last year and a great chance to kick on with a good manager, a team which is going well and has lots of goals in it. 
Fair play to you for sticking to your principles, but isn’t this why you suffer all those other years, to savour the good times when they come around?

With Saints, it’s up to £27 this year I believe so I’ll be picking and choosing home matches after giving up my long held season ticket last year. VAR has played a part, along with the dogshite level of entertainment we’ve been serving up for a few years.  I can take a mixed bag of results, but when you’re watching entire matches with barely a chance or shot then I’m questioning why I’m wasting time with it.

If we look competitive, play a bit of entertaining football and score a few goals along the way I’ll happily pay it.

But it’s a sliding scale.. if we went up to £34+we better be playing like Brazil 1970 to justify it.

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2 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

For example, right now surely Dundee fans are more willing to splash out than any other time for 20 years or so? A good season last year and a great chance to kick on with a good manager, a team which is going well and has lots of goals in it. 
Fair play to you for sticking to your principles, but isn’t this why you suffer all those other years, to savour the good times when they come around?

So to flip this a wee bit for yourself, and bearing in mind we never won anything last season...

The season after winning the Double, would St Johnstone fans be willing to pay £34 to visit Dens?

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I've no idea what I think the price should be. I mean £25 for playing brutal football & losing most weeks would feel like daylight robbery, £30 when you're playing well & winning regularly is a lot more palatable.

As I've no kids I'm taking to games I'm willing to pay more than I would if I was paying for a kid on top of myself, but I think County are near at my upper limit at £28 for adults. The kids pricing is hard to fault though, £5 for U-12s, £10 for U-18s & £15 for 18-21. Like you say, it's not that you can't afford to pay more, but it's getting close to the point where an adult ticket just isn't great value. 

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I get that it is very difficult for clubs given costs involved etc. However the ticket pricing for individual games is now at a point where imo it is making it easy for fans to say na f**k that. Particularly when it gets to the winter months etc.

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Good question, and not sure on answer!

Ticket prices do feel pretty high in Scotland, but generally we've kept 3pm Saturday kick offs. Would folk be willing to accept £10-15 a ticket if it meant playing games on Friday at 20:00 say? Again, I'm not sure!

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6 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

So to flip this a wee bit for yourself, and bearing in mind we never won anything last season...

The season after winning the Double, would St Johnstone fans be willing to pay £34 to visit Dens?

I guess as we’d been starved of football and had a good team then yes a lot of Saints fans would that year.

But in the context of a normal season then no, I’d think there would be quite an outcry as well with many staying away.

I think good on Dundee fans for boycotting Tannadice, it’s a ridiculous price and deserves to make a loss. But opening game of the season, team playing well and a first derby for a couple of years is a difficult one to not go to for the difference of less than £10.  And yes I realise this is where the problem lies, as fans have to make a stand at some point.

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34 minutes ago, johnnydun said:

Carrying on from a debate about the cost of an away ticket for the Dundee Derby. 

What's your cut off point for how much you would be willing to pay for a Scottish top flight league game.

Although I can afford to, paying £34 to watch a Scottish top flight game is above what I would be willing to pay, Dundee Derby or not, adding my 2 teenage sons at £20 each, then we are up at £74, not including food.

The directors have got the price right though, as it will no doubt be a sell out, because others are willing to pay this. Fair enough. But imo, the price doesn't meet the value. 

For me, around £28 is currently my absolute max, and around £15 for the teenage boys.

How much does it need to be for you to say, "nah, f**k that"?

That's a fair take on pricing. I spat the dummy 2 seasons ago when county were charging 28 against 25 from almost everyone else. 3 quid is nothing but it's the principal.

I'd be more inclined to pay more if the quality was improving but it most definitely is not 

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£28 is too much but seems about the norm?

 

I'd like fans of the big 2 to answer. Seems like they get fleeced every game but are happy to pay £30-35. Have a feeling they'd sell out at £40 & be closer to £50 before they did anything.

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Another point is how much clubs are being fleeced by police Scotland.

Our recent friendly at ayr had a ridiculous amount of overtime hungry policemen, Horses, off road motorcycles etc. Same on Thursday night for the European game, a full 6 hours before kick off. Football is a cash cow for them.

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As our away games are always classed as higher category games, we tend to always have to pay top price for match tickets for away games. I’m sure tickets to Celtic Park now are ~£50. I’ve not been able to go for 4 or 5 years but given the opportunity I’d probably pay it. 

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Difficult to say but for Saints and Scotland games it’d probably take it turning out like gig tickets for me to decide against going. I’m most definitely part of the problem. 

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Something that starts with a ‘2’. If it starts with a ‘3’ or more - no thanks. Exceptions to my ‘2’ rule would only be for a League Cup or Scottish Cup Final, or the Conference League Final in Poland between St Mirren and some Johnny Foreigner dugmeat.

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24 minutes ago, Pizzo said:

Another point is how much clubs are being fleeced by police Scotland.

Our recent friendly at ayr had a ridiculous amount of overtime hungry policemen, Horses, off road motorcycles etc. Same on Thursday night for the European game, a full 6 hours before kick off. Football is a cash cow for them.

Our club coach for the Ayr away game got a motorcycle police escort all the way from the Park Hotel. Totally unnecessary and I’m sure we would’ve paid for that (maybe we asked for it who knows?).

Overall I feel like there have always been too many police and stewards at games for about 20 years however I doubt any club could try to cut back now due to the increase in trouble seen at various grounds over the last couple of years.

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It’s all about supply and demand, £34 for the upcoming derby is too high imo but it is currently heading towards a sellout and I would imagine the return fixture at new year at £33 a ticket will be the same. As long as fans are going prices are never going to come down, the only way to change this would be mass boycotts of all games organised by every set of supporters groups for every team as a stand against rising ticket prices. 
 

On a separate note I haven’t bought a Utd strip for years but notice the price of replica kits are forever on the rise and for a family who has a couple of kids it’s a pretty penny to get the kids kitted out only for it to be deemed out of date 1 year later. 

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I previously thought no realistic price could put me off going but last season I skipped a few of the £34-£36 type games. It was more the combination of VAR and the price. Would have paid it for something I would enjoy more.

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