Parkranger Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 16 minutes ago, Lokloyal said: It’s interesting to see how many clubs are tenants nowadays .A sign of the times I suppose but can leave you at the mercy of unscrupulous landlords I suppose and that’s the danger as Rob Roy found out with the huge delays over their use of the new ground. Who were the unscrupulous landlords involved with KRR? Oh the Kirkintilloch Community sports stadium is in EDC it's run by KRRFC charity wing Kirkintilloch community sports club With community sports club paying operating costs of the facility in turn allowing them make money off it in rentals etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 4 hours ago, Parkranger said: Who were the unscrupulous landlords involved with KRR? Oh the Kirkintilloch Community sports stadium is in EDC it's run by KRRFC charity wing Kirkintilloch community sports club With community sports club paying operating costs of the facility in turn allowing them make money off it in rentals etc. I should have rephrased that -was more a general observation that if you are tenants then the landlords hold the upper hand and you rely on them playing ball literally ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig fae the Vale Posted August 27 Share Posted August 27 Vale of Leven's Millburn is owned by The Millburn Trust, which currently consists of members of the club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 27 Author Share Posted August 27 (edited) Updated There was and still is a lot of interest received about this subject in the Lowland section and there were quite a few posts/comments about grounds in the WOSFL and what can be done so thought a post dedicated to the WOSFL and their teams showing who owns their ground. I'll hopefully update this as information is received on posts or messages, It would be great if you know who owns club/park etc... I asked this question before as it's quite interesting for fans to know who owns their own club/ground in the WOSFL or is the ground leased or is it in a trust or is it owned by one person/couple of fans etc... Any updates on this would be perfection thanks. I think it's something that all fans of their clubs should know / be kept up to date as you don't want your club / ground being sold without your knowledge. Fans should always have a say in what happens to their club. Ardeer Thistle Ardeer Stadium Ardrossan Winton Rovers Winton Park Arthurlie Dunterlie Park Yes - Owned by members Ashfield Stepford Centre No - Glasgow Council Auchinleck Talbot Beechwood Park Beith Bellsdale park Bellshill Rockburn Park No - Council Benburb New Tinto Park Yes – Unsure How Blantyre Victoria Castle Park Bonnyton Thistle Bonnyton Park No – Council? BSC Peterson Park Caledonian Locos Petershill Park No - Glasgow Council Campbeltown Pupils Kintyre Park Cambuslang Rangers Somerveil Park Carluke Rovers John Cumming Stad No - South Lanarkshire Council Clydebank Holm Park No - Council - Leased by Holm Park Community Football Academy Craigmark Burtonians Station Park Cumbernauld United Guy’s Meadow Cumnock Townhead Park Dalry Merksworth Park Darvel Recreation Park Drumchapel United Donald Dewar No - Council Easterhouses Stepford Park No - Council East Kilbride Thistle The Showpark Eglington Kilwinning Sprts Hub No – Council Finnart Sprinburn Park No – Council Forth Wanderers Kingshall Park Gartcairn MTC Park No – North Lanarkshire Council Giffnock SC Eastwood Park No - Council Girvan Hamilton Park Glasgow Perthshire Keppoch Park Glasgow United Greenfields park Glasgow University Excelsior Stadium No Glenafton Athletic Loch Park Glenvale Ferguslie Sports Cent No – Renfrewshire Council Greenock Ravenscraig Stadium Hurlford United Blair Park Irvine Meadow Meadow Park Irvine Victoria Victoria Park Johnstone Burgh Keanie Park Kello Rovers Nithsdale Park Kilbirnie Ladeside Valefield Park Kilsyth Athetic Kilsyth Sports Field No - Council Kilsyth Rangers Duncansfield Kilwinning Rangers Buffs Park No – Leased from Kilwinning Sports Club Knightswood Scotstoun Campus No - Council Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Kirky Sports Complex No – E D Council Lanark United Moor Park Largs Thistle Barrfields Park Larkhall Thistle Gasworks Park Lesmahagow Craighead Park Lugar Boswell Thistle Rosebank Park Maryhill Lochburn Park Maybole Ladywell Park Muirkirk Burnside Park Neilston Brig O’ Lea Newmains United Victoria Park Petershill Petershill Park No – Glasgow City Council Pollok Newlandsfield Yes – Unsure how? Port Glasgow Parklea Sports No – Local Council Renfrew New Western Park Rossvale Huntershill / Kirky Sports C No – Both East Dumbartonshire Council Royal Albert Tileworks Park No - Council Rutherglen Glencairn Hamish B, Allan Stadium Yes - Run by members Saltcoats Victoria Campbell Park Shotts Bon Accord Hannah Park St Antony’s McKenna Park No - Glasgow City Council St Cadocs New Tinto Park No St Peters New Western Park No St Roch’s James McGrory Park Thorn Athletic Thorn Athletic Sports Ac Thorniewood United Robertson park Threave Rovers Meadow Park Troon Portland Park Vale of Clyde Fullarton Park Vale of Leven Millburn Park Yes - The Millburn Trust - Members West Park United Huntershill No - Council Whitletts Victoria New Voluntary park Wishaw Beltane Park Yoker Athletic Holm Park No - Council? Again, anyone with addition information regarding who owns the park/club would be greatly appreciated. Please excuse any error. All error will be rectified as soon as passible Edited August 29 by Bestsinceslicebread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 13 hours ago, jimbaxters said: Does the term "member" (you're not welcome here, Kenneth Williams) denote a season ticket holder? No. Glencairn have Members and season ticket holders. You can be both or one or the other. Members are basically like shareholders, the Members actually part own the club and have access to General Meetings and the right to become a Management Committee member or an Office Bearer. Season ticket holders only have the right to get entry to home league matches, they have no voting rights in club matters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 30 minutes ago, glensmad said: No. Glencairn have Members and season ticket holders. You can be both or one or the other. Members are basically like shareholders, the Members actually part own the club and have access to General Meetings and the right to become a Management Committee member or an Office Bearer. Season ticket holders only have the right to get entry to home league matches, they have no voting rights in club matters. Exactly the same at Pollok 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 7 hours ago, Lokloyal said: Exactly the same at Pollok 7 hours ago, glensmad said: No. Glencairn have Members and season ticket holders. You can be both or one or the other. Members are basically like shareholders, the Members actually part own the club and have access to General Meetings and the right to become a Management Committee member or an Office Bearer. Season ticket holders only have the right to get entry to home league matches, they have no voting rights in club matters. More than likely that at Talbot too. I'm ignorant when it comes to these things. Thanks for the replies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 41 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: More than likely that at Talbot too. I'm ignorant when it comes to these things. Thanks for the replies. Please don't take it personal You , ignorant, never. Please ffs don't think, just contact the club and ask, we definitely cannot go on what you think. Both the posters above have told us how their club operate and we all believe in their validity but if you said how your club would operate, no one except your pals would believe you, there a reason for that, work it out -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 Just now, jimbaxters said: Who rattled your cage, Shirley? No one rattles my cage subboi You said your are ignorant and I'm agreeing with you and giving you a reason why 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 28 Author Share Posted August 28 52 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: More than likely that at Talbot too. I'm ignorant when it comes to these things. Thanks for the replies. Actually you are a Talbot supporter, well go and be useful and try and find out who owns your favourite team and their ground and if its a trustee etc... and i will genuinely update it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Bestsinceslicebread said: Actually you are a Talbot supporter, well go and be useful and try and find out who owns your favourite team and their ground and if its a trustee etc... and i will genuinely update it There are many Talbot supporters better placed to do so than I am. I will leave you to your fact finding. Don't forget to feed the cat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkranger Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, jimbaxters said: There are many Talbot supporters better placed to do so than I am. I will leave you to your fact finding. Don't forget to feed the cat. Low IQ genuine crackpots are best just left to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
not man of the match Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Clydebank FC is owned by the UCS Football Trust. The Trust is a members organisation which votes on the board each year. The board are all Trust members too. Members have to rejoin each year in order to retain their vote. Each member has the same voting rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) On 28/08/2024 at 16:47, not man of the match said: Clydebank FC is owned by the UCS Football Trust. The Trust is a members organisation which votes on the board each year. The board are all Trust members too. Members have to rejoin each year in order to retain their vote. Each member has the same voting rights. Not only owned by but is the Trust. Changed a few years back Edited August 29 by BANKIEBILL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokloyal Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 1 hour ago, BANKIEBILL said: Not only owed by but is the Trust. Changed a few years back Is the ground owned by the Council and leased to the Trust?Which I think is the same or very similar to the Rob Roy model perhaps? Edited August 28 by Lokloyal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmparkheroes Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 40 minutes ago, Lokloyal said: Is the ground owned by the Council and leased to the Trust?Which I think is the same or very similar to the Rob Roy model perhaps? Council owned, run by Holm Park Community Football Academy which is comprised of the council, Clydebank and Yoker. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 (edited) Updated This WOSFL guide shows which teams own their own ground and which teams do not. We see there are many clubs who don't own their parks, majority we knew about, some we did not. I'll hopefully update this as information is received on posts or messages, It would be great if you know who owns club/park etc... I asked this question before as it's quite interesting for fans to know This guide is for all fans of their to be kept up to date of who owns their own club/ground in the WOSFL or is the ground leased or is it in a trust or is it owned by one person/couple of fans etc... as you don't want your club / ground being sold without your knowledge. Fans should always have a say in what happens to their club. Ardeer Thistle Ardeer Stadium Ardrossan Winton Rovers Winton Park Arthurlie Dunterlie Park Yes - Owned by members Ashfield Stepford Centre No - Glasgow Council Auchinleck Talbot Beechwood Park Beith Bellsdale park Bellshill Rockburn Park No - Council Benburb New Tinto Park Yes – Unsure How Blantyre Victoria Castle Park Bonnyton Thistle Bonnyton Park No – Council? BSC Peterson Park Caledonian Locos Petershill Park No - Glasgow Council Campbeltown Pupils Kintyre Park Cambuslang Rangers Somerveil Park Carluke Rovers John Cumming Stad No - South Lanarkshire Council Clydebank Holm Park No - Council - Leased by Holm Park Community Football Academy Craigmark Burtonians Station Park Cumbernauld United Guy’s Meadow Cumnock Townhead Park Dalry Merksworth Park Darvel Recreation Park Drumchapel United Donald Dewar No - Council Easterhouses Stepford Park No - Council East Kilbride Thistle The Showpark Eglington Kilwinning Sprts Hub No – Council Finnart Sprinburn Park No – Council Forth Wanderers Kingshall Park Yes Gartcairn MTC Park No – North Lanarkshire Council Giffnock SC Eastwood Park No - Council Girvan Hamilton Park Glasgow Perthshire Keppoch Park Glasgow United Greenfields park Glasgow University Excelsior Stadium No Glenafton Athletic Loch Park Glenvale Ferguslie Sports Cent No – Renfrewshire Council Greenock Ravenscraig Stadium Hurlford United Blair Park Irvine Meadow Meadow Park Irvine Victoria Victoria Park Johnstone Burgh Keanie Park Kello Rovers Nithsdale Park Kilbirnie Ladeside Valefield Park Kilsyth Athetic Kilsyth Sports Field No - Council Kilsyth Rangers Duncansfield Kilwinning Rangers Buffs Park No – Leased from Kilwinning Sports Club Knightswood Scotstoun Campus No - Council Kirkintilloch Rob Roy Kirky Sports Complex No – E D Council Lanark United Moor Park Largs Thistle Barrfields Park Larkhall Thistle Gasworks Park Lesmahagow Craighead Park Lugar Boswell Thistle Rosebank Park Maryhill Lochburn Park Yes - FD Properties inc Supporters Trust Maybole Ladywell Park Muirkirk Burnside Park Neilston Brig O’ Lea Newmains United Victoria Park Petershill Petershill Park No – Glasgow City Council Pollok Newlandsfield Yes – Unsure how? Port Glasgow Parklea Sports No – Local Council Renfrew New Western Park Yes Rossvale Huntershill / Kirky Sports C No – Both East Dumbartonshire Council Royal Albert Tileworks Park No - Council Rutherglen Glencairn Hamish B, Allan Stadium Yes - Run by members Saltcoats Victoria Campbell Park Shotts Bon Accord Hannah Park St Antony’s McKenna Park No - Glasgow City Council St Cadocs New Tinto Park No St Peters New Western Park No St Roch’s James McGrory Park Thorn Athletic Thorn Athletic Sports Ac Thorniewood United Robertson park Threave Rovers Meadow Park Troon Portland Park Vale of Clyde Fullarton Park Vale of Leven Millburn Park Yes - The Millburn Trust - Members West Park United Huntershill No - Council Whitletts Victoria New Voluntary park No Council Owned- Leased by Vics in the Community charity Wishaw Beltane Park Yoker Athletic Holm Park No - Council? Again, anyone with addition information regarding who owns the park/club would be greatly appreciated. Please excuse any error. All error will be rectified as soon as passible. Some clubs very hard to find information on who own their club/ground so any help is greatly appreciated Edited August 30 by Bestsinceslicebread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 (edited) Lochburn was bought by Freddie Duda Sr in the early 90s as per here: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12289274.give-thanks-for-the-duda-day/ Since his death it's been held in trust for the club. In terms of day to day governance, you'll probably find the 80 clubs of the WOS have 80 different ways of running things! At Maryhill, things are relatively informal compared to the seemingly byzantine committee structures I've heard of at other clubs...ultimately however the committee make the meaningful decisions as they're at the coalface. Probably a good example of that fundamental informality working to our advantage was us moving across to the WOSFL; as it was clear I'd been following events and knew a lot of the back story I was temporarily assigned as the pyramid rep in order to attend the various meetings and prepare a report/recommendations and trusted to do it objectively on my tod. A couple of days before the SJFA meeting at Hampden they changed it so that only chairmen and/or I think club secretaries should attend - there was a lot of disinformation and obfuscation flying around at that point and with no disrespect meant it was clear that night that a lot of those there had either not been briefed at all or briefed badly, in some cases only having the vaguest idea of what was actually going on - that fact was made abundantly clear by some of the statements released by clubs in the aftermath thinking they'd been invited into the LL and so on. We were one of a minority who ignored the diktat and just sent who we were going to send anyway, and so were able to make a final decision quickly despite the advent of COVID the following week. Edited August 29 by Hillonearth 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 29 Author Share Posted August 29 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: Lochburn was bought by Freddie Duda Sr in the early 90s as per here: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/12289274.give-thanks-for-the-duda-day/ Since his death it's been held in trust for the club. In terms of day to day governance, you'll probably find the 80 clubs of the WOS have 80 different ways of running things! At Maryhill, things are relatively informal compared to the seemingly byzantine committee structures I've heard of at other clubs...ultimately however the committee make the meaningful decisions as they're at the coalface. Probably a good example of that fundamental informality working to our advantage was us moving across to the WOSFL; as it was clear I'd been following events and knew a lot of the back story I was temporarily assigned as the pyramid rep in order to attend the various meetings and prepare a report/recommendations and trusted to do it objectively on my tod. A couple of days before the SJFA meeting at Hampden they changed it so that only chairmen and/or I think club secretaries should attend - there was a lot of disinformation and obfuscation flying around at that point and with no disrespect meant it was clear that night that a lot of those there had either not been briefed at all or briefed badly, in some cases only having the vaguest idea of what was actually going on - that fact was made abundantly clear by some of the statements released by clubs in the aftermath thinking they'd been invited into the LL and so on. We were one of a minority who ignored the diktat and just sent who we were going to send anyway, and so were able to make a final decision quickly despite the advent of COVID the following week. Superb post and very insightful and brings back memories of a lot that was going on at the time. It great to see the club in a trust as since his death you do get the impression that he would have wanted Maryhill FC to be run by the supporters. I think Maryhill Fc is in a superb location, right in the heart of Maryhill with a few catchment area around and potential to bring fans back more to the clubhouse for amazing nights and or back to watch the team. I personally think an SFA license would breath new life back into Maryhill Fc but know its a big ask. I take it, it's something that has been looked into? and I suppose even if Grass is preferred Astro has been looked into? Edited August 29 by Bestsinceslicebread 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 33 minutes ago, Hillonearth said: A couple of days before the SJFA meeting at Hampden they changed it so that only chairmen and/or I think club secretaries should attend - there was a lot of disinformation and obfuscation flying around at that point and with no disrespect meant it was clear that night that a lot of those there had either not been briefed at all or briefed badly, in some cases only having the vaguest idea of what was actually going on - that fact was made abundantly clear by some of the statements released by clubs in the aftermath thinking they'd been invited into the LL and so on. We were one of a minority who ignored the diktat and just sent who we were going to send anyway, and so were able to make a final decision quickly despite the advent of COVID the following week. I look back on that meeting at Hampden with a smile now, as I know how things turned out in the end, but the mis-information that was given out that meeting was incredible. You are correct, it was clear from the room that many of the clubs represented had no clue about what was actually happening. Fortunately two nights later the LL held their own information meeting at the Holiday Inn Express in East Kilbride, and almost all of the myths that had been presented at Hampden were blown away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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