Fuctifano Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Aus backed themselves with another earlyish declaration against Pakistan, setting them 452 to win with plenty of time left. Pakistan are 170/3 at stumps on day four and will be dreaming of glory, unlikely though it is.Has anyone ever lost a Test after declaring twice? (I'm not counting the infamous Centurion Test of 200, when I believe SA's second innings was technically forfeited rather than declared.) The West Indies did it under Garry Sobers back in the day, and I'm sure England either did it or came very close to it recently. 2 good wickets from Teh Swannannator, I hope the Saffers crumple in a heap this afternoon as I'm off today but working tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Meanwhile, England eventually declared on 575/9, lead of 232, and Swann has taken two wickets (Prince and Amla) leaving SA 37/2 at tea.It's looked a flat and easy pitch for the past two days, you've got to think SA shouldn't have much trouble on it, but pressure does funny things. The TV "Experts" were right then - Swann will determine the outcome of this Test. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Double declarations that lost: West Indies lost to England, 1968 SA lost to Australia, 2006 That was taken from a 2006 article, I'm sure there was one more recently though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWeb Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 It has to be said the Saffers (the ones playing for the home side) are in piss poor form. Currently heading for back to back home test series defeats against their main rivals (Aus and England). Batting is weak and the bowling is powder puff. Feeling before the series was that SA would struggle to take 20 wickets and so it's proving. The one lad who nearly got them there in the first test (De Wiet) was dropped to make way for Ntini who bowled like a club player. England should win this series 2-0. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 It has to be said the Saffers (the ones playing for the home side) are in piss poor form. Currently heading for back to back home test series defeats against their main rivals (Aus and England). Batting is weak and the bowling is powder puff. Feeling before the series was that SA would struggle to take 20 wickets and so it's proving. The one lad who nearly got them there in the first test (De Wiet) was dropped to make way for Ntini who bowled like a club player. England should win this series 2-0. Didn't De Wet make way for Steyn? In any event, it was a baffling decision - De Wet bowled superbly in the 1st Test. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWeb Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Didn't De Wet make way for Steyn? Could be right, either way he should never have been dropped. Ntini is playing from memory and Steyn is a legend in his own lunchtime. SA need to find some bowlers quick or they will soon be behind both AUS and ENG in the rankings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Kallis certainly knows where his off stump is... about 5 feet behind him. Have Bell and Kallis been swapped for this match and not told anybody? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Double declarations that lost:West Indies lost to England, 1968 SA lost to Australia, 2006 That was taken from a 2006 article, I'm sure there was one more recently though. Cheers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 And bloody hell, Broad gets Kallis and deVilliers and SA are 44/4. We're going to win this, and I'm going to be eating humble pie on the team selection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Fucking hell, 44/5. We're going to win it tonight at this rate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Weather looks like the Saffers best friend now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) It has to be said the Saffers (the ones playing for the home side) are in piss poor form. Currently heading for back to back home test series defeats against their main rivals (Aus and England). Batting is weak and the bowling is powder puff. Feeling before the series was that SA would struggle to take 20 wickets and so it's proving. The one lad who nearly got them there in the first test (De Wiet) was dropped to make way for Ntini who bowled like a club player. England should win this series 2-0. "batting is weak" - really? Smith, Prince, Amla, Kallis, deVilliers, Duminy (with the likes of McKenzie and Rudolph unable to get a game). It's a top six to match anyone's. Or at least I thought so until this afternoon, maybe you were right after all. The bowling lacks the same strength in depth, agreed. Edited December 29, 2009 by Yoss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Smith out now too, 50/6. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 (edited) I hope the Saffers crumple in a heap this afternoon as I'm off today but working tomorrow. I'm away to the shops now, I hope a few of Girls Aloud are waiting for me in various states of undress when I get back as I'm off today but working tomorrow. (it's worth a try) I really didn't see that collapse coming, some shocking batting from SA but fair play to Broad and Swann for bowling accurately. Edited December 29, 2009 by Fuctifano 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fuctifano Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I knew I should have been more specific No point in the Saffers giving this up yet, the weather there can be pretty bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Smith complaining about the light at every opportunity before his wicket. I wonder if they lose he will have as much to say as he usually does. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 76/6, bad light and presumably close of play. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Well, I didn't see that coming. The South Africans often crumble under pressure, but it's still a benign track. Some great bowling from Swann and Broad, though. Credit to Ian Bell; it was a stylish innings scored at a decent rate. I have not an earthly why Broad batted so conservatively but with only four wickets left, England should be able to secure an innings victory tomorrow. To save the match, South Africa will have to bat for the best part of another 70 overs, an unlikely prospect to say the least. On paper South Africa look a strong side. Any side with Kallis and Smith in the batting line-up should be able to win a few test matches. I'm convinced Dale Steyn will come good at some point during this series and if Ntini gets dropped in favour of de Weit then their bowling is pretty decent. I'm not convinced by Harris; he's clearly not in the same league as Swann. England's narrow victory in the Ashes shows that this side has some bottle and that may make all the difference in this series. One thing's for sure: England will be unchanged for the next test match. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qpsnapper Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 Typical all the action happens on the day I'm back at work, there's something spellbinding about test cricket when you get a spell like that, four wickets for seven runs. Just have to make do with the highlights tonight I suppose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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