dogmc Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Unless the All Blacks get him first Can only hope [emoji38] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 15 hours ago, honestly united said: Seemingly its now a done deal that the 2 SA teams being kicked out of Super Rugby will be joining the Pro 12 possibly for this season coming. Apparently will be playing home and away, but no info on whether it will be a straight 26 games or whether it will be split into pools What will happen to the aussie team also being punted? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Sir Ian McGeechan has been rushed to hospital after collapsing at the Westpac stadium. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 8 hours ago, Doonhamer doon south said: What will happen to the aussie team also being punted? I think they will just cease to exist with the players being moved to the other franchises to strengthen them. The Australians dont have the strength in depth that NZ have hence why they have struggled in Super Rugby so getting rid of a team player wise was never really an issue that it is in SA. Australia have just started a new domestic league as they dont have the equivalent of a Currie Cup or Mitre 10 / Air New Zealand which is the step from club players up to professional. Will be interesting with the SA franchises whether they are kept at a level comparable to the Super Rugby teams or sit at a level between Super Rugby and the Currie Cup ie a stepping stone from players in the Currie Cup before Super Rugby. It will surely not be ideal from the national team in SA to have players joining up for hte rugby Championship having just finished Super Rugby in August, then others who are in preseason for the Pro12/14, then the Pro 12/14 players will miss the first 6 weeks or so of the season as the Rugby Championship runs from end Aug through to the start of October 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 10 hours ago, honestly united said: I think they will just cease to exist with the players being moved to the other franchises to strengthen them. The Australians dont have the strength in depth that NZ have hence why they have struggled in Super Rugby so getting rid of a team player wise was never really an issue that it is in SA. Australia have just started a new domestic league as they dont have the equivalent of a Currie Cup or Mitre 10 / Air New Zealand which is the step from club players up to professional. Will be interesting with the SA franchises whether they are kept at a level comparable to the Super Rugby teams or sit at a level between Super Rugby and the Currie Cup ie a stepping stone from players in the Currie Cup before Super Rugby. It will surely not be ideal from the national team in SA to have players joining up for hte rugby Championship having just finished Super Rugby in August, then others who are in preseason for the Pro12/14, then the Pro 12/14 players will miss the first 6 weeks or so of the season as the Rugby Championship runs from end Aug through to the start of October If the pro 12 goes to a conference system due to SA teams AND an USA/CANADIAN franchise team(s) would it be equal conferences or will it be promote/relegate thing. If its equal i think its best to keep two pro teams but if its the latter it would be a great opportunity to try and invest in a third pro side but as a development side. Yes they would get pumped from time to time but in a conference consisting of Italian/Canadian/USA/other invited teams then they could well compete in that type of league. It would give our young charges and veterans a good place to go if they cant get in edinburgh or a warriors team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Doonhamer doon south said: If the pro 12 goes to a conference system due to SA teams AND an USA/CANADIAN franchise team(s) would it be equal conferences or will it be promote/relegate thing. If its equal i think its best to keep two pro teams but if its the latter it would be a great opportunity to try and invest in a third pro side but as a development side. Yes they would get pumped from time to time but in a conference consisting of Italian/Canadian/USA/other invited teams then they could well compete in that type of league. It would give our young charges and veterans a good place to go if they cant get in edinburgh or a warriors team. It wold have to be equal conferences, although they might wait until the US/Canadian teams enter before going down that route - so normal league this season. Although they have also offered places / been in discussions with Spain, Germany and Georgia about expanding their so things could look a look different in a few years time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeek Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 USA vs Canada is live now on Facebook.It's also Canada's 150th birthday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 USA vs Canada is live now on Facebook.It's also Canada's 150th birthday. Winner gets a place at the RWC as Americas 1. With loser playing a 2 legend game v Uruguay at the end January beginning of February for the Americas 2 slot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Southern Kings won in Argentina today against Jaguars (basically Argentina team). Great result and potentially good team 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 USA vs Canada is live now on Facebook.It's also Canada's 150th birthday. I hope Canada bought cakes in for everyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 A 52-16 win for USA puts them into pool c as Americas 1 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 4 hours ago, honestly united said: It wold have to be equal conferences, although they might wait until the US/Canadian teams enter before going down that route - so normal league this season. Although they have also offered places / been in discussions with Spain, Germany and Georgia about expanding their so things could look a look different in a few years time 2 tiers of 10 would be a manageable league. I think to start off have the top 10 of the current pro 12. With the next 10 teams made up of the 2 SA teams, 2 ITA teams, 1 USA team, 1 Canadian team, 1 GEO team, 1 GER team, 1 ESP team, 1 other team say ROM. But saying that is good in theory but looking at it it would be a logistical nightmare. I'm very much i wanna see rugby grow and dislike the idea of "ring fencing" a competition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 5 hours ago, Doonhamer doon south said: 2 tiers of 10 would be a manageable league. I think to start off have the top 10 of the current pro 12. With the next 10 teams made up of the 2 SA teams, 2 ITA teams, 1 USA team, 1 Canadian team, 1 GEO team, 1 GER team, 1 ESP team, 1 other team say ROM. But saying that is good in theory but looking at it it would be a logistical nightmare. I'm very much i wanna see rugby grow and dislike the idea of "ring fencing" a competition. Imagine the rage from the Welsh teams if they got relegated. They'd be begging England to take them. The Welsh regions are basically the Pro12's version of the Old Firm, just without the success. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Imagine the rage from the Welsh teams if they got relegated. They'd be begging England to take them. The Welsh regions are basically the Pro12's version of the Old Firm, just without the success. There would be but realistically under what I mention it's only the dragons that would be in danger of that as the blues are able to put results together. For the dragons it may be better to compete in a league of similar or slightly worse off teams as them rather than being handed defeat after defeat as it is in the current format. Same goes for Edinburgh and the italians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Reading on the BBC about 2 leagues of 7 with an equal split of teams but with the derbies being retained. Sounds like it's all being done on the hoof with the draft plans being written up on the back of the proverbial fag packet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Reading on the BBC about 2 leagues of 7 with an equal split of teams but with the derbies being retained. Sounds like it's all being done on the hoof with the draft plans being written up on the back of the proverbial fag packet. Yep, absolute farce. 8 or 9 weeks until the league is due to start and we don't even know who will be in it never mind the format. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
same_ol_g35 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Yep, absolute farce. 8 or 9 weeks until the league is due to start and we don't even know who will be in it never mind the format. This. I was just coming on to post something similar. I'm all for expansion and improving the league and no doubt the SA teams would. But it all seems to be so slap dash and flung together at the last minute. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddfg Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Just read an article in the Sunday Times, maybe that's where Tom English got his info for the BBC but it's quoting the same schedule. Two conferences, top 3 into a play off and three Derby games against Edinburgh. The silence from Pro12/14 and the clubs is pretty poor, not even a holding statement saying when a decision will be made 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Just read an article in the Sunday Times, maybe that's where Tom English got his info for the BBC but it's quoting the same schedule. Two conferences, top 3 into a play off and three Derby games against Edinburgh. The silence from Pro12/14 and the clubs is pretty poor, not even a holding statement saying when a decision will be made As said above its a mess. Surely better to retain current format for this season and properly plan for next..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 As said above its a mess. Surely better to retain current format for this season and properly plan for next..... Could drop the Italians for the South Africans for a much more competitive league. I feel sorry for the Italians but are they as a union going to get any better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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