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That's awful news for Glasgow. Hopefully see them back for the Autumn internationals.

Even if it's 4 would be cutting it fine. Hopefully when Glasgow play munster Connor Murray is firmly booted in the nuts every ruck.
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Even if it's 4 would be cutting it fine. Hopefully when Glasgow play munster Connor Murray is firmly booted in the nuts every ruck.


But but... that would be targeting the poor cherub
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Even if it's 4 would be cutting it fine. Hopefully when Glasgow play munster Connor Murray is firmly booted in the nuts every ruck.

Unless the All Blacks get him first
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15 hours ago, honestly united said:

Seemingly its now a done deal that the 2 SA teams being kicked out of Super Rugby will be joining the Pro 12 possibly for this season coming. Apparently will be playing home and away, but no info on whether it will be a straight 26 games or whether it will be split into pools

What will happen to the aussie team also being punted?

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8 hours ago, Doonhamer doon south said:

What will happen to the aussie team also being punted?

I think they will just cease to exist with the players being moved to the other franchises to strengthen them. The Australians dont have the strength in depth that NZ have hence why they have struggled in Super Rugby so getting rid of a team player wise was never really an issue that it is in SA. Australia have just started a new domestic league as they dont have the equivalent of a Currie Cup or Mitre 10 / Air New Zealand which is the step from club players up to professional.

Will be interesting with the SA franchises whether they are kept at a level comparable to the Super Rugby teams or sit at a level between Super Rugby and the Currie Cup ie a stepping stone from players in the Currie Cup before Super Rugby. It will surely not be ideal from the national team in SA to have players joining up for hte rugby Championship having just finished Super Rugby in August, then others who are in preseason for the Pro12/14, then the Pro 12/14 players will miss the first 6 weeks or so of the season as the Rugby Championship runs from end Aug through to the start of October

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10 hours ago, honestly united said:

I think they will just cease to exist with the players being moved to the other franchises to strengthen them. The Australians dont have the strength in depth that NZ have hence why they have struggled in Super Rugby so getting rid of a team player wise was never really an issue that it is in SA. Australia have just started a new domestic league as they dont have the equivalent of a Currie Cup or Mitre 10 / Air New Zealand which is the step from club players up to professional.

Will be interesting with the SA franchises whether they are kept at a level comparable to the Super Rugby teams or sit at a level between Super Rugby and the Currie Cup ie a stepping stone from players in the Currie Cup before Super Rugby. It will surely not be ideal from the national team in SA to have players joining up for hte rugby Championship having just finished Super Rugby in August, then others who are in preseason for the Pro12/14, then the Pro 12/14 players will miss the first 6 weeks or so of the season as the Rugby Championship runs from end Aug through to the start of October

If the pro 12 goes to a conference system due to SA teams AND an USA/CANADIAN franchise team(s) would it be equal conferences or will it be promote/relegate thing. If its equal i think its best to keep two pro teams but if its the latter it would be a great opportunity to try and invest in a third pro side but as a development side. Yes they would get pumped from time to time but in a conference consisting of Italian/Canadian/USA/other invited teams then they could well compete in that type of league. It would give our young charges and veterans a good place to go if they cant get in edinburgh or a warriors team. 

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3 hours ago, Doonhamer doon south said:

If the pro 12 goes to a conference system due to SA teams AND an USA/CANADIAN franchise team(s) would it be equal conferences or will it be promote/relegate thing. If its equal i think its best to keep two pro teams but if its the latter it would be a great opportunity to try and invest in a third pro side but as a development side. Yes they would get pumped from time to time but in a conference consisting of Italian/Canadian/USA/other invited teams then they could well compete in that type of league. It would give our young charges and veterans a good place to go if they cant get in edinburgh or a warriors team. 

It wold have to be equal conferences, although they might wait until the US/Canadian teams enter before going down that route - so normal league this season. Although they have also offered places / been in discussions with Spain, Germany and Georgia about expanding their so things could look a look different in a few years time

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USA vs Canada is live now on Facebook.
It's also Canada's 150th birthday.

Winner gets a place at the RWC as Americas 1. With loser playing a 2 legend game v Uruguay at the end January beginning of February for the Americas 2 slot
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4 hours ago, honestly united said:

It wold have to be equal conferences, although they might wait until the US/Canadian teams enter before going down that route - so normal league this season. Although they have also offered places / been in discussions with Spain, Germany and Georgia about expanding their so things could look a look different in a few years time

2 tiers of 10 would be a manageable league. I think to start off have the top 10 of the current pro 12. With the next 10 teams made up of the 2 SA teams, 2 ITA teams, 1 USA team, 1 Canadian team, 1 GEO team, 1 GER team, 1 ESP team, 1 other team say ROM. But saying that is good in theory but looking at it it would be a logistical nightmare. I'm very much i wanna see rugby grow and dislike the idea of "ring fencing" a competition. 

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5 hours ago, Doonhamer doon south said:

2 tiers of 10 would be a manageable league. I think to start off have the top 10 of the current pro 12. With the next 10 teams made up of the 2 SA teams, 2 ITA teams, 1 USA team, 1 Canadian team, 1 GEO team, 1 GER team, 1 ESP team, 1 other team say ROM. But saying that is good in theory but looking at it it would be a logistical nightmare. I'm very much i wanna see rugby grow and dislike the idea of "ring fencing" a competition. 

Imagine the rage from the Welsh teams if they got relegated. They'd be begging England to take them.

The Welsh regions are basically the Pro12's version of the Old Firm, just without the success.

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Imagine the rage from the Welsh teams if they got relegated. They'd be begging England to take them.
The Welsh regions are basically the Pro12's version of the Old Firm, just without the success.

There would be but realistically under what I mention it's only the dragons that would be in danger of that as the blues are able to put results together. For the dragons it may be better to compete in a league of similar or slightly worse off teams as them rather than being handed defeat after defeat as it is in the current format. Same goes for Edinburgh and the italians.
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Reading on the BBC about 2 leagues of 7 with an equal split of teams but with the derbies being retained. Sounds like it's all being done on the hoof with the draft plans being written up on the back of the proverbial fag packet.

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Reading on the BBC about 2 leagues of 7 with an equal split of teams but with the derbies being retained. Sounds like it's all being done on the hoof with the draft plans being written up on the back of the proverbial fag packet.


Yep, absolute farce. 8 or 9 weeks until the league is due to start and we don't even know who will be in it never mind the format.
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