hearthammer Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The rugby world wants Japan to win this, but a turgid game and an 8 points win would do under the circumstances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 There’s a legitimate complaint that games can’t be rescheduled, but as has been shown in this thread, the teams signed up to those rules. There was never any attempt to reschedule any of the games, which is daft, but still. The optics of threatening to sue were awful So why try to reschedule the ABs game - but only speak to the ABs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 So why try to reschedule the ABs game - but only speak to the ABs?Is that what happened? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Is that what happened? From what's being reported - ABs offered to shift to Friday - organisers said no. ABs were asked to shift to Monday and said no. Italians were not consulted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said: There will be games going ahead next weekend regardless. You seem to be absolutely desperate to make it clear you're in Japan and how terrible it all is, and how great the people are there. Frankly its nothing to do with this. Our game was scheduled today, if its cancelled it's a week until the next game, I doubt any "infrastructure" that's taken a battering will be down for more than a day or two, so theres no reason they couldnt have delayed cancelled games until Tuesday, even if it means moving it to other parts of the country where the storm hit earlier. This is the issue. This is the complaint. There are roads, railways and bridges across the country. That type of infrastructure won't be back up and running in a day or two. Some Prefectures still don't have power from the previous typhoon last month. The geography of Japan means that most of the venues have been directly affected. Sapporo? No can do, there's a baseball game on this weekend/week. Fukuoka? Possibly but getting thousands of ticketed spectators there would be an issue. I don't give a f**k if you think I'm advertising that I live in Japan. I've never made any secret of it but take it from someone with firsthand experience of the daily threat of typhoons, earthquakes and tsunamis, it takes more than a few days to get things back up and running. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 There is a good chance we wouldn't be playing now if we hadn't threatened legal action. As soon as it turned out World Rugby's Robust contingency plans didn't exist we had them over a barrell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, GAD said: There is a good chance we wouldn't be playing now if we hadn't threatened legal action. As soon as it turned out World Rugby's Robust contingency plans didn't exist we had them over a barrell. Going forward, do you think there should be another round of qualifiers before the finals in order to reduce the groups to 4 Nations? That way a rest week could cope for any contingencies? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldo Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, sjc said: There are roads, railways and bridges across the country. That type of infrastructure won't be back up and running in a day or two. Some Prefectures still don't have power from the previous typhoon last month. The geography of Japan means that most of the venues have been directly affected. Sapporo? No can do, there's a baseball game on this weekend/week. Fukuoka? Possibly but getting thousands of ticketed spectators there would be an issue. I don't give a f**k if you think I'm advertising that I live in Japan. I've never made any secret of it but take it from someone with firsthand experience of the daily threat of typhoons, earthquakes and tsunamis, it takes more than a few days to get things back up and running. So cancelling the game is a better option than playing behind closed doors, or to a reduced crowd? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, sjc said: Going forward, do you think there should be another round of qualifiers before the finals in order to reduce the groups to 4 Nations? That way a rest week could cope for any contingencies? The talk is of going to 6 groups of 4, then a last 16 before quarters, but that means the group games are every day with no days off until a gap between groups and last 16 so probably worse. Unless you look at moving 6N or RC the only option is holding in countries where you guarantee the weather in October / November 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rock Star said: So cancelling the game is a better option than playing behind closed doors, or to a reduced crowd? Its better if done in advance, but our case you have fans and players moving into the Typhoon hit area in the hope that the game is on Edited October 13, 2019 by honestly united 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 STV player stop starting as ever.What a heap of shit it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Now we're back to the rugby... I can't fucking stand David Flatman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rock Star said: So cancelling the game is a better option than playing behind closed doors, or to a reduced crowd? I don't disagree but the stadium might not be available. Most are shared with other sports. It should have been held in December imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 That’s how to do a moment of silence. 15 seconds. Job done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 This should be good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Haven’t read the entire thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Someone told me yesterday that prior to the tournament taking place, all the competing nations signed contracts with World Rugby. Part of those contracts covered the cancellation of games, and how points would be awarded. All nations agreed to this and signed the contracts. Now, if this is true, that was the time for concerned nations to say ‘no, not signing that, we should look to move cancelled games, or delay them by a day or two, and if that cannot happen, then cancel the game and void the result’. Apparently, Scotland signed up to exactly what might have been the situation with our game against Japan today. A kick in the baws for any nation unlucky enough to have it happen to them, but frankly, just a case of ‘nae luck’. Is it true that all nations signed contracts that agreed pool games, cancelled in the event of fire, flood, pestilence, typhoons or Dave King turning up at Narita airport, wouldn’t be moved or delayed, but declared null and void? If so, why did we threaten legal action and go full-on ‘big hoose must stay open’ on everyone?As well as that clause, the contract stated that there were "robust contingency plans" in place to get as many games as possible played if conditions were bad. It turned out they were total bollocks as the plans for Yokohama and Tokyo were that they were the back up for each other, despite being only 14 miles apart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, honestly united said: The talk is of going to 6 groups of 4, then a last 16 before quarters, but that means the group games are every day with no days off until a gap between groups and last 16 so probably worse. Unless you look at moving 6N or RC the only option is holding in countries where you guarantee the weather in October / November Rock and a hard place, eh?! Hopefully Italy or Argentina get the tournament soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 It's as if we have two separate national anthems for rugby and football. I like the rugby one but the football one is gantin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7C Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Don't know if I can handle watching this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, peasy23 said: 1 hour ago, pozbaird said: Haven’t read the entire thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Someone told me yesterday that prior to the tournament taking place, all the competing nations signed contracts with World Rugby. Part of those contracts covered the cancellation of games, and how points would be awarded. All nations agreed to this and signed the contracts. Now, if this is true, that was the time for concerned nations to say ‘no, not signing that, we should look to move cancelled games, or delay them by a day or two, and if that cannot happen, then cancel the game and void the result’. Apparently, Scotland signed up to exactly what might have been the situation with our game against Japan today. A kick in the baws for any nation unlucky enough to have it happen to them, but frankly, just a case of ‘nae luck’. Is it true that all nations signed contracts that agreed pool games, cancelled in the event of fire, flood, pestilence, typhoons or Dave King turning up at Narita airport, wouldn’t be moved or delayed, but declared null and void? If so, why did we threaten legal action and go full-on ‘big hoose must stay open’ on everyone? As well as that clause, the contract stated that there were "robust contingency plans" in place to get as many games as possible played if conditions were bad. It turned out they were total bollocks as the plans for Yokohama and Tokyo were that they were the back up for each other, despite being only 14 miles apart. The bulk of Japan's populated areas are in close proximity. A bit like Scotland's central belt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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