Rugby Union

[honestly united]

19 hours ago, GordonS said:

Where do you rank the Irish in this? For me they're top. At least there are working class rugby people in Wales, in Ireland they're a bunch of entitled p***ks.

In general the Irish are the worst, apart from Gatland, Biggar and Williams the welsh are generally OK, as are the English rugby fans - however as they are a bigger country they have a higher number of annoying w*nks. 

Being a Scotland rugby fan you always get some positivity that builds through January only to be completely wiped out by half time in the first game - this year its just taken until the 2nd half of the 2nd game before being wiped out.

I think everything has already been covered, crap ref, i remember him being dreadful the last time we had him in a Scotland game, but discipline cost us, with refs this bad you have to make sure you dont give them a chance to make these decisions.

We should have been looking forward to going to France as a grand slam decider, then on to Ireland as a crack at a triple crown, we are now staring at mid table at best*

 

* i appreaciate we still have a chance of the 6 Nations title if we go unbeaten, but others have already picked up a few bonus points

Edited February 14, 2021 by honestly united

[John Lambies Doos]

I see your point but it's probably personal taste. After our miracle comeback at Twickers when George Ford grabbed a draw I was sickened for the rest of the weekend. However when Harry Kane popped up at the end at Hampden I was slightly annoyed but not too fussed tbh. 

The one that sickened me and actually still does is the Aus v Scot quarter final in 2015. I'd actually have fancied us to beat the Argies the following weekend and make the final, albeit we'd have been pumped.

[Distant Doonhamer]

37 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:

1 hour ago, come on shire said:

I see your point but it's probably personal taste. After our miracle comeback at Twickers when George Ford grabbed a draw I was sickened for the rest of the weekend. However when Harry Kane popped up at the end at Hampden I was slightly annoyed but not too fussed tbh. 

The one that sickened me and actually still does is the Aus v Scot quarter final in 2015. I'd actually have fancied us to beat the Argies the following weekend and make the final, albeit we'd have been pumped.

Yep that was a really bad one. For all the controversy re the penalty Australia got all we had to do prior to that was secure lineout ball by throwing to the front and the game was done. 

[Mark Connolly]

Let's get the weekend back on track by laughing for 80 mins at the fact Billy Burns is an international standoff

[Snobot]

Brilliant from France. 

[GAD]

Poor finishing and set piece from France, accompanied with the usual Luke Pearce horror show, ably backed up by fellow limp gimp linesman Christophe Ridley is keeping Ireland in this. 

[Mark Connolly]

The English officials are generally fairly average in their domestic league, but they really manage to lower themselves to a horrendous level when it comes to Europe and internationals

[Detournement]

8 hours ago, BucksburnDandy said:

18 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

Carley was fucking awful from start to finish, and made the game all about him. But he's not unique in that as an international rugby referee. 
Rugby refereeing is all about interpretation....much so than football. It's up to the teams involved to quickly adapt to the referee. 
Scotland simply didn't do that today, and Wales played him very well for the whole 80 minutes. 

The referee wasn't to blame for Scotland losing but I have to admit I don't understand a lot of aspects of rugby officiating - the virtual coaching of players through various breakdown scenarios and the looseness of the interpretation. As much as football officials piss us off at times, the laws are generally a lot tighter and the game is better for the consistency of the law.

The ref was definitely to blame. We had two clear penalties in the final play ignored. Liam Williams tackling Hogg without the ball and holding on on the ground when Harris was on his feet with his hands on the ball.

The ref also done us on the play where Graham pinched the ball from Cummings and Cummings was done for blocking. We should have been on pen advantage for offside but Cummings was tackled without the ball into Graham's path so again that's a penalty for us. 

It shouldn't have mattered though as Graham should never have caught the ball. All he had to do was latch onto Cummings and drive him over. 

[GAD]

Luke Pearce is going to shaft somebody here, you can feel it coming. It's now so tight he can decide who wins, and I'm pretty sure he will. Smart money would be on Ireland, but I actually think he could go either way, it's all about the headlines.

[Genuine Hibs Fan]

8 minutes ago, Detournement said:

The ref was definitely to blame. We had two clear penalties in the final play ignored. Liam Williams tackling Hogg without the ball and holding on on the ground when Harris was on his feet with his hands on the ball.

The ref also done us on the play where Graham pinched the ball from Cummings and Cummings was done for blocking. We should have been on pen advantage for offside but Cummings was tackled without the ball into Graham's path so again that's a penalty for us. 

It shouldn't have mattered though as Graham should never have caught the ball. All he had to do was latch onto Cummings and drive him over. 

Watching the highlights I thought maybe we'd made a bit much of the Harris pen at the end but just watching it again there's a clear 5 seconds before his knee drops so a definite pen. I was under the impression we had an advantage prior to the obstruction call as well

[Mark Connolly]

I generally can't stand this sort of shite, but I will absolutely be claiming my 83 hours playing hide and seek with Niko Matawalu

 

[ajwffc]

42 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

I generally can't stand this sort of shite, but I will absolutely be claiming my 83 hours playing hide and seek with Niko Matawalu

 

i don't fancy my 100 hours staring at Rhys Webb

 

[John Lambies Doos]

Yep that was a really bad one. For all the controversy re the penalty Australia got all we had to do prior to that was secure lineout ball by throwing to the front and the game was done. 

Still think Hogg was taken late off the ball too about 30 seconds before line out. We could really have cleared it upfield

[come on shire]

50 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

I generally can't stand this sort of shite, but I will absolutely be claiming my 83 hours playing hide and seek with Niko Matawalu

 

I've got 84 hours of self portraits with Tommy Allan... 

[peasy23]

Some decent investment in the Glasgow squad going by recent signings.

[Mark Connolly]

That's a cracking signing tbf

[John Lambies Doos]

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[Allan Jacobsen]

1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said:

I generally can't stand this sort of shite, but I will absolutely be claiming my 83 hours playing hide and seek with Niko Matawalu

 

Should probably let me get my 58 hours of eating breakfast in bed with him first. You'll find him easier after that.

PS - delighted to beat England.

PPS - f**k yesterday's ref.

PPPS - seems Racing were right () to punt that arsehead Nakarawa for his attitude. Hopefully he does the same to Ulster.

[Guest Bob Mahelp]

5 hours ago, Mark Connolly said:

The English officials are generally fairly average in their domestic league, but they really manage to lower themselves to a horrendous level when it comes to Europe and internationals

When Wayne Barnes is the best English referee, you know how bad things are. 

Carley is just fucking horrendous in general, and Pierce is just in love with himself. After a weekend of them, I'm sick of hearing their voices in my head. 

[GordonS]

8 hours ago, honestly united said:

 

I think everything has already been covered, crap ref, i remember him being dreadful the last time we had him in a Scotland game, but discipline cost us, with refs this bad you have to make sure you dont give them a chance to make these decisions.

 

You reminded me there that I was raging at the refereeing of Ireland v Scotland in the Autumn Nations Cup, so I went back and looked at what I'd said, which was; "For me it was a non-test. Possibly the worst refereed test I've seen."

He gave Ireland their second try when there's no possibility you could see it grounded. It's incredible. He awards it on the pitch though you can't see a thing, the TMO shows nothing, so he sticks with his award.

I think O'Mahoney's pass for Ireland's third try is forward. Not looked at.

One Ireland player got three - literally, three - shouts of "no, release now" with no penalty, but Fraser Brown got instantly pinged when he was clearly trapped at the base of a ruck and would have caused more disruption if he'd tried to get out, even if he could. Ali Price took a quick tap-penalty and Henderson cynically took him out after he'd gone 5 yards - just another penalty when it really should have been a yellow, and the second penalty was from where the offence occurred, not from 10 yards in front of the original penalty as it should have been. Cowan had two hands on the ball trying to drag it off an Irish player on the ground, it went on for at least 3 seconds before Cowan was cleared out and no penalty was given for not releasing.

The yellow card against Duncan Taylor for a deliberate knock-on was incredibly harsh. It was just about inside the range of options for the ref, but with this ref, everything is going to be as bad as possible for Scotland.

And who reffed it? Yep, you guessed it.

Properly bad referees like Carley are why cyncal b*****ds like O'Mahoney prosper in the game. People say Scotland should be more streetwise - I say referees should do they job, because I want to watch rugby played by the rules, not won by who's best at getting away with cheating. If this is what rugby is supposed to be like then I'll not bother renewing my season books and I'll spend the money on football instead.