peasy23 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Stuart Hogg's International career should be over. Not because of Kinghorn's form, I've just heard him say "could of" in an interview. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: It's a shame it's a RWC rather than Lions year, because a Test team with no English or Welsh players would be hilarious I genuinely don't think that would be allowed to happen. Maybe no Welsh at a push, but an English player would have to be picked. Probably Freddie Steward even though he's pretty shite, or Itoje despite being honking for a couple of seasons now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) The Steward incident has actually been interesting in the context of the "Scots complaining about referees all the time" thing. What you never (well, I can't remember it anyway) see is a procession of former Scottish internationals lining up to throw their toys out the pram when a decision goes against them. I don't think even in the wake of the 2015 QF did you see anything like the last few days. Apparently rugby is being "ruined" by the current tackle laws now that England have had a borderline case go against them. Of course, in reality rugby, and in particular international rugby, is a more exciting and high quality sport than it ever has been in the professional era; and there is next to no grounds to suggest that red cards ruin games. I think the orange card rule is an ok idea, but ultimately it's completely unnecessary. Edited March 22, 2023 by Genuine Hibs Fan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 17 hours ago, peasy23 said: Here's the Rugby Pass team of the tourney with Scotland players making up most of the back line. It was a strange tourney for Scotland imo, great start but then competed well but came up short against France and Ireland. We still look miles off it in terms of physicallity against them. Scotland scored 17 tries, it's not that long ago that it would have taken us 5 or 6 years to score that many. That team would be incredible to watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 And, to the surprise of no one, World Rugby have shat it from the English pressure and chucked Peyper under the bus. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoramus Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I’m not trusting Frank Hadden’s opinion on anything rugby related after the years of trauma he inflicted on me tbqhwy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aDONisSheep Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Terrible decision rightfully overturned. Unfortunately, it's too fvkkin' late. England were up against it before Peyper completely fvkked it for them. Game was a complete bogey after that, a complete waste of everyones time. Rugby needs to buck it's ideas up, it's becoming Amercian football by the back-door. There are too many subs; Players need to lose some bulk and be able to play for 80 minutes. The TMO needs to be less involved. If a referee misses a forward pass or a little knock on 4, 5, 6 + phases back, then play on. It should only get involved when the ref asks or if there is serious foul play. Straight feeds at the scrum! More 10m penalties for chat. It grinds my gears that there are so many appeals for cards etc. Speed the game up. One reset then straight arm at the scrum (you take your chances), kick clock time to be reduced, stop the waterboy nonsense it's delaying restarts, clocks for lineouts from time ball goes out to throw in, stop the caterpillar for box kicks. Allow a bit of rucking (not round the head), but if a hand is in the ruck slowing the ball, then it needs a scrape. Yours aDONis -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Hibee Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 My view on the tackle laws is entirely coloured by both my boys being keen rugby players, coaching the younger boys team and the older boy having had a concussion. rugby had to get a point where players stop tackling so high otherwise people, kids in particular, will stop playing. I have no sympathy for any borderline case - honestly Steward saw what was happening and turned into Keenan. Send them off and behaviour changes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 I didn't think it was a red card for Steward.Given how quickly it all developed plus the knock on, I felt it was harsh and he was more pulling out of the challenge. Rugby also needs to stop watching incidents in slow motion. Slow motion should only be used to check grounding etc, as it often exacerbates minor incidents. Refs are more aware of this now, asking for real time to be used. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 17 hours ago, flyingscot said: I didn't think it was a red card for Steward.Given how quickly it all developed plus the knock on, I felt it was harsh and he was more pulling out of the challenge. Rugby also needs to stop watching incidents in slow motion. Slow motion should only be used to check grounding etc, as it often exacerbates minor incidents. Refs are more aware of this now, asking for real time to be used. That’s the thing about the Steward red card: the referee dismissed so much mitigation that it was clearly unfair on the player. There are too many red cards in rugby. I get that head injuries are quite rightly the root cause, but it ruins games. France could easily have put 60 points on Scotland had their prop not got sent off, and that helps nobody. Honestly, if neither of those players had been sent off, would anyone have complained? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: That’s the thing about the Steward red card: the referee dismissed so much mitigation that it was clearly unfair on the player. There are too many red cards in rugby. I get that head injuries are quite rightly the root cause, but it ruins games. France could easily have put 60 points on Scotland had their prop not got sent off, and that helps nobody. Honestly, if neither of those players had been sent off, would anyone have complained? Yes, because what Haouas did was dangerous and out of line. I'm more sympathetic to high challenges particularly where there are other tacklers around. Rugby has massively changed in terms of physicality, pace and tactics since the amateur days, indeed if you watch footage from 1990s you'd struggle to think it was the same sport. It's hard not to see rules needing further amendment largely to protect players from themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, flyingscot said: Yes, because what Haouas did was dangerous and out of line. I'm more sympathetic to high challenges particularly where there are other tacklers around. Rugby has massively changed in terms of physicality, pace and tactics since the amateur days, indeed if you watch footage from 1990s you'd struggle to think it was the same sport. It's hard not to see rules needing further amendment largely to protect players from themselves. I definitely agree with that. I can remember Jonah Lomu being such a freak on the wing, mainly because he was up against 5’11, 12 stone wingers like Cammy Murray. These days most of the best wingers are built like flankers. I just think the solution isn’t red cards. I know the thinking is that players will learn, but really, there’s an arguable red card in every game, and I don’t think that’s right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 Jamie Dobie starting on the wing? Is this something that's been happening that I've missed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, GAD said: Jamie Dobie starting on the wing? Is this something that's been happening that I've missed? He hasnt before as far as I can remember, we must have some injury list to have to be playing him there. Did we not sign an Argentinian winger a few weeks back? Is tagive still inured / a thing? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snobot Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 He ended up there in one of the more recent games but I put that down to injuries and the 6/2 split that Smith likes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Some start from Glasgow, 3 tries to nil over monster after half ana hour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 This is going rather well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 27 minutes ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: This is going rather well. Understatement of the year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Although there's a long way to go yet. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted March 25, 2023 Share Posted March 25, 2023 Get it right fucking up them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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