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Hadn't realised it had been changed to May, but yes the top 4 countries in the world rankings are the top seeded teams 5-8 second seeds then the other 4 teams that finished in the top 3 in their groups are third seeds.

 

Current Standings as follows - note Fiji are 10th but still have to qualify 

 

 

1 (1)New Zealand 96.10

 

2 (3) England 88.50

 

3 (4) South Africa 86.03

 

4 (2) Australia 85.43

 

5 (5) Argentina 82.87

 

6 (6) Wales 82.49

 

7 (7) Ireland 81.96

 

8 (9) Scotland 79.50

 

9 ( 8) France 78.09

 

10 (10) Fiji 77.14

 

11 (11) Japan 75.89

 

12 (12) Georgia 73.57

 

13 (14) Italy 71.57

 

So at the moment the seedings would be

 

NZ, Eng, SA, Aus

Arg, Wal, Ire, Sco

Fra, Japan, Georgia, Italy

 

And you just know we would get France

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Easiest way of working it out is just to win as many games as poss between now and the end of the 2017 6N. 

 

Fiji have to qualify as they are a Tier 2 status.  Only Tier 2 sides who finished in the top 3 in their WC pool last year get auto qual for 2019 WC. 

 

Tier 1 sides (Scotland) qualify auto.  Only time Tier 1 sides would need to qualify in the pro era would be if they finished 4th or 5th in the last WC pool. 

 

IF I'm not mistaken.

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We were a 3rd seeded team last time but were incredibly lucky with the draw. Can't be that lucky twice on the bounce.

 

Yep, doubt that you could have hand picked a better group than Scotland got last year coming out of pot 3. Getting Samoa from pot 2 was definitely a massive stroke of luck, and from pot 1 the only team that would have been a better option would have been France instead of SA.

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Hadn't realised it had been changed to May, but yes the top 4 countries in the world rankings are the top seeded teams 5-8 second seeds then the other 4 teams that finished in the top 3 in their groups are third seeds.

 

 

I only found out about the change of date when i seen a link to an article mentioning the change of date 

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Nope its the teams that finish in the top 3 places during the group stage of the last world cup that get automatic qualification regardless of whether they are tier 1 or not - Japan and Georgia this time round as an example and last time round we had Samoa as second seeds in our group. If England or Italy for example had finished 4th behind Fiji or Romania they would have had to qualify fr the next world cup - although im sure it would have been made extremely easy for them.

 

For example the 3 PI teams are near guaranteed qualification as they are playing in a 3 team group and the 2 winners qualify, last place plays off against the winner of the other oceania group (Cook Islands, Vanuata, PNG etc) to enter the repachage tournament against the other teams that didnt qualify directly for the last 2 places which they should win. 

 

The qualification process is a joke to fair, and seems to be changed every year to suit agenda's

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team for sat 

 

5. Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors) – 44 caps; 11 tries, 3 pens, 64 points

14. Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors) – 28 caps; 13 tries, 65 points
13. Matt Scott (Gloucester) – 35 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
12. Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps; 2 tries, 1 con, 1 pen, 15 points
11. Sean Maitland (Saracens) – 20 caps; 3 tries, 15 points

10. Ruaridh Jackson (Harlequins) – 29 caps; 4 cons, 2 pens, 2 drops, 20 points
9. Henry Pyrgos CAPTAIN (Glasgow Warriors) – 17 caps; 4 tries, 20 points

1. Rory Sutherland (Edinburgh Rugby) – 2 caps
2. Stuart McInally (Edinburgh Rugby) – 8 caps
3. Moray Low (Exeter Chiefs) – 33 caps
4. Richie Gray (Toulouse) – 57 caps; 3 tries, 15 points
5. Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors) – 24 caps; 1 try
6. Josh Strauss (Glasgow Warriors) – 8 caps
7. John Barclay (Scarlets) – 51 caps; 4 tries, 20 points
8. Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors) – 19 caps

Substitutes
16. Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors) – 16 caps
17. Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors) – 17 caps
18. Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby) – 14 caps; 2 tries, 10 points
19. Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors) – 23 caps
20. John Hardie (Edinburgh Rugby) – 11 caps; 3 tries, 15 points
21. Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester) – 52 caps; 4 tries, 66 cons, 124 pens, 524 points
22. Huw Jones (Stormers) – uncapped
23. Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors) – 104 caps, 14 tries, 70 points

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This Wed is the Challenge/Champs Cup draw. 

 

Glasgow in Tier 2 and could draw Toulon, Racing or Sarries.  Even from Tier 3 we could draw Northampton and Scarlets form Tier 4.

 

I'm terrified.

 

1pm start.  Don't know if that's the Champs cup draw or the full thing.  As a Scotsman I'd like to see Edinburgh get a decent draw too.

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Really like the look of that side. Might have switched horne to 10 but you could argue that nel and brown aside its very close to our best team. Great to see Pyrgos back at 9.

 

I think Hardie would be in Scotland's best side.

Those stats really do emphasise how few tries Scotland have scored in the last decade.  Seymour has scored almost as many tries in 30 caps as Lamont has in 100.

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I think Hardie would be in Scotland's best side.

Those stats really do emphasise how few tries Scotland have scored in the last decade. Seymour has scored almost as many tries in 30 caps as Lamont has in 100.

Wouldnt argue against hardie as we have plenty of great back row options. Tbf to sean lamont he has played in some stinking Scotland sides which were terrible for white line fever. There were several seasons when 2 tries for the whole 6n would be all we could manage. Its only with the emergence of Glasgow as an attacking force that we have become a try scoring side. Lamont has been a great servant to scottish rugby through thick and anoxerically thin and hopefully will contribute a lot as a coach in the future. Ps tommy is a prime poacher on top of every other skill who has learnt lots from dth and would grace any team in nh.
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