oneteaminglasgow Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 55 minutes ago, 101 said: Conflating Palestinians and Gaza, dissapointing she wasn't pick up on that, the Palestinians living in the West Bank have nothing to do with Hamas. Nor do most of the ones living in Gaza. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 20 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: There is a school of thought that Arafat's plan all along was to use Oslo to get back into Palestine and then launch the intifada. Think the problem ultimately was more that neither side's politicians were able to persuade the populations they represented to go along with the two-state plan Bill Clinton came up with and the Americans were not forceful enough on insisting that Israel had to get back to something very close to the 1948-1967 borders or lose future American financial and military backing. Ararat was a fucking crook more interested in his (and his extended family's) wellbeing than Palestinians - Abbas just continued that. No surprise they voted for Hamas in 2006. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy McJagface Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Indeed.. What an absolute lunatic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Horrendous pictures from al Jazeera just now. Looks like Israel has bombed a hospital where people were taking refuge. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Horrendous pictures from al Jazeera just now. Looks like Israel has bombed a hospital where people were taking refuge. And a school run by the UN, several dead children. Not sure how long they can deny what they are doing. They told Palestinians to leave and move south out of Gaza city........and are now bombing southern towns. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Leith Green said: And a school run by the UN, several dead children. Not sure how long they can deny what they are doing. They told Palestinians to leave and move south out of Gaza city........and are now bombing southern towns. Easier to hit if they’re all bunched together, plus when they drop the big one the blast radius won’t reach Tel Aviv. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, coprolite said: Easier to hit if they’re all bunched together, plus when they drop the big one the blast radius won’t reach Tel Aviv. Gaza isn't much bigger than Greater Glasgow, they don't need nukes to flatten Paisley. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 42 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Horrendous pictures from al Jazeera just now. Looks like Israel has bombed a hospital where people were taking refuge. Fucking mental. I thought Liz Truss when Foreign Sec wouldn't be beaten for stupidity when she told British Citizens to go to war for a foreign country. But the response to this war makes Truss seem sensible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DannyBlue Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Indeed.. I mean, all her other nonsense aside, it's pretty hard for me to believe that they are only targeting Hamas targets. The intelligence system was overwhelmed by people on motorbikes and hand gliders, and suddenly being asked to believe that the exact same intelligence system has precise locations to target only Hamas targets is genuinely ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Gaza isn't much bigger than Greater Glasgow, they don't need nukes to flatten Paisley. To be clear, I was being facetious, possibly inappropriately and wasn’t offering a tactical analysis. I don’t condone the use of nuclear weapons in Gaza. Paisley however…. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, coprolite said: To be clear, I was being facetious, possibly inappropriately and wasn’t offering a tactical analysis. I don’t condone the use of nuclear weapons in Gaza. Paisley however…. I thought it had been? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, DannyBlue said: I mean, all her other nonsense aside, it's pretty hard for me to believe that they are only targeting Hamas targets. The intelligence system was overwhelmed by people on motorbikes and hand gliders, and suddenly being asked to believe that the exact same intelligence system has precise locations to target only Hamas targets is genuinely ridiculous. Yup, 6000 specifically Hamas targets hit last week they claim, more than America dropped in the worst year of the Afghanistan war, which would indicate supernatural intelligence given that they didn't realise Hamas drones were knocking out their cameras and com towers on the border until most of their military bases on the other side had been wiped out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7C Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 500 dead in a single strike on a hospital. Very hard to argue this wasn’t deliberate. At what point is a stop put to this? How long will the UK and US blindly back it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, S7C said: 500 dead in a single strike on a hospital. Very hard to argue this wasn’t deliberate. At what point is a stop put to this? How long will the UK and US blindly back it? If we had decent journalists in this country Sunak and Starmer would be getting asked that question until they gave unequivocal answers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Reports and video suggesting this was one of the Hamas rockets that misfired. Meanwhile, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: Reports and video suggesting this was one of the Hamas rockets that misfired. Meanwhile, How convenient. IDF just throwing darts out and seeing if any stick on the board. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: Reports and video suggesting this was one of the Hamas rockets that misfired. Usually the Hamas rockets don't carry enough explosives to blow up a garden shed, so I'm doubtful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Israel are utter b*****ds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 49 minutes ago, S7C said: 500 dead in a single strike on a hospital. Very hard to argue this wasn’t deliberate. At what point is a stop put to this? How long will the UK and US blindly back it? They have until Biden shows up to do what they want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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