Israel And The Palestinians (now with added Iran/Lebanon)

[Fullerene]

20 minutes ago, 101 said:

How have they got all this equipment in whilst Israel control the border and have done for some time?

There is a teleport and a Tardis but obviously these can't be shown for security reasons.

[Granny Danger]

Focus on the Gaza catastrophe is providing cover for the extremist settlers in the West Bank to terrorise Palestinians, kill them and chase them off their land.

Struggling to see any condemnation of this from our political representatives.

[Silvio Tattiescone]

20 minutes ago, coprolite said:

for the ammo etc, some of these tunnels go to Iran. 
 

 

Over 1000 miles away. Some tunnel that.

[coprolite]

3 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said:

Over 1000 miles away. Some tunnel that.

It’s lined with concrete and made with sophisticated equipment 

[Loonytoons]

25 minutes ago, Fullerene said:

There is a teleport and a Tardis but obviously these can't be shown for security reasons.

Jesus of Gallifrey?

[Bairnardo]

In the context of talking about the laddie Choudary at Leicester and his "offensive tweet" a Sky Sports News presenter has just given a trigger warning before saying "we'll repeat the phrase once for context...... from the river to the sea". 

 

Normal stuff

[Salvo Montalbano]

3 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

In the context of talking about the laddie Choudary at Leicester and his "offensive tweet" a Sky Sports News presenter has just given a trigger warning before saying "we'll repeat the phrase once for context...... from the river to the sea". 

 

Normal stuff

Needs to be in spoiler tags TBQHWY

[Derry Alli]

Rumours Palestinians are holding Green Brigade banners.

[Freedom Farter]

2 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Focus on the Gaza catastrophe is providing cover for the extremist settlers in the West Bank to terrorise Palestinians, kill them and chase them off their land.

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

7 hours ago, virginton said:

How many warnings of attacks do you think that intelligence/security services receive on an ongoing basis? Your account is no less simplistic - and wrong - than claiming that the US knew about 9/11 in advance (note all the anti-Semitic tropes that swirl around that conspiracy) or indeed that the US and the Soviet Union deliberately 'allowed' the attacks that brought both countries into the Second World War. 

It is just toxic bullshit to try and shift attention from Hamas' terrorist actions. 

Stick you antisemitism whataboutery up your arse for a start.

If you want to go down the road that people in US intelligence knew about 9/11 before the attack, it is quite clear they did.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Willie-Brown-got-low-key-early-warning-about-air-3314754.php

Reported at the time, San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown was told not to fly to New York on the 9/11.

 

[Fullerene]

In WW2, the Soviets had their suspicions about Germany and the Americans had their suspicions about Japan.  Maybe there were also operatives who knew exactly what was about to happen but could not be heard or their warnings went unheeded.  That is all very different to the Soviets knowing about Operation Barbarossa and allowing it to happen or the Americans having advance knowledge about the attack on Pearl Harbor but allowing it too.

Similarly lots of mistakes happened before 911 and opportunities were lost but the event made a massive hit on the US economy.  Allowing for that and all the lives lost, I seriously doubt any US politician would survive long if it was discovered they knew about it in advance and did nothing.

Most politicians are too short-term to be that deceitful.

[sparky88]

9 hours ago, virginton said:

How many warnings of attacks do you think that intelligence/security services receive on an ongoing basis? Your account is no less simplistic - and wrong - than claiming that the US knew about 9/11 in advance (note all the anti-Semitic tropes that swirl around that conspiracy) or indeed that the US and the Soviet Union deliberately 'allowed' the attacks that brought both countries into the Second World War. 

It is just toxic bullshit to try and shift attention from Hamas' terrorist actions. 

^^^ Naftali Bennett

[vikingTON]

3 hours ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

Stick you antisemitism whataboutery up your arse for a start.

If you want to go down the road that people in US intelligence knew about 9/11 before the attack, it is quite clear they did.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/matier-ross/article/Willie-Brown-got-low-key-early-warning-about-air-3314754.php

Reported at the time, San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown was told not to fly to New York on the 9/11.

 

US intelligence clearly did not know that an attack would happen on September 11th 2001. Unless you think that they deliberately placed the President and Commander in Chief in an unsecured school room at the time of this known attack - where he stayed inexplicably frozen by reports of the event. And also allowed terrorists to fly a plane into the fucking Pentagon itself for... batshit mental, conspiracist reasons. 

But yep, instead of prioritising the security of those key institutions of American power, they instead circled the wagons around, err,  the mayor of San Francisco.

[sophia]

2 hours ago, sparky88 said:

^^^ Naftali Bennett

He can't even play the violin, he's just fiddling about

[Wee-Bey]

4 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

Rumours Palestinians are holding Green Brigade banners.

Oh ah, up the Ra-mallah

[Ewanandmoreagain]

4 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

Rumours Palestinians are holding Green Brigade banners.

Naughty , but hilarious !

[Ewanandmoreagain]

2 hours ago, Fullerene said:

In WW2, the Soviets had their suspicions about Germany and the Americans had their suspicions about Japan.  Maybe there were also operatives who knew exactly what was about to happen but could not be heard or their warnings went unheeded.  That is all very different to the Soviets knowing about Operation Barbarossa and allowing it to happen or the Americans having advance knowledge about the attack on Pearl Harbor but allowing it too.

Similarly lots of mistakes happened before 911 and opportunities were lost but the event made a massive hit on the US economy.  Allowing for that and all the lives lost, I seriously doubt any US politician would survive long if it was discovered they knew about it in advance and did nothing.

Most politicians are too short-term to be that deceitful.

We , and others , warned Stalin about Barbarossa but

****o thought it was just a ruse so he would join the fight against Hitler

Pearl Harbour - Hoover was warned about a likely attack but

did not like the source

 

[Derry Alli]

11 minutes ago, Ziggy Sobotka said:

Oh ah, up the Ra-mallah

Ting tang walla walla bing bang.

[vikingTON]

40 minutes ago, Ewanandmoreagain said:

We , and others , warned Stalin about Barbarossa but

****o thought it was just a ruse so he would join the fight against Hitler

Pearl Harbour - Hoover was warned about a likely attack but

did not like the source

 

The Soviets had hundreds of reports of planned attacks - the issue, as with most intelligence operations, is trying to filter misinformation (which the Nazis pumped out to cover their plans) and incorrect reports from legitimate evidence. People flag up the predicted date of an attack on June 22nd as an obvious error - they don't recognise that a previous wave of reports identified the middle of May as the date for Barbarossa instead. 

Indeed the complete failure of the May reports made the intelligence of a June attack less credible. The Nazis would be attacking beyond their prime invasion window with no preparation made for winter fighting. 

Similarly the US had plenty of intelligence to anticipate that Japan would go to war soon, but had no prior and obvious lead that Pearl Harbor would be attacked without a formal declaration of war. 

[Wee-Bey]

Videos emerging of drone grenade attacks on IDF vehicles similar to the stuff you see from Ukraine and boys in tracksuit bottoms jumping out of foxholes and wiping out tanks with rockets.