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9 minutes ago, theesel1994 said:
As long as the SJFA are only involved in the Scottish Junior Cup and not fines or their own player taxes. And the Scottish takes place secondary to the League then I wouldn't object to that.
This is where compromise muddys the waters, I don't understand why the LL just didn't stick to their intended path and invite applications to the new WoSFL without agreeing to take on baggage. They had no need.
Chances are now, if there is SJFA involvement, we'll have some LL feeder clubs playing in a Junior Cup, and some in the South Cup. We'll have some WoSFL clubs claiming they're still Junior clubs yadayada.
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5 minutes ago, Born To Run said:
Further clarifications:
- Any concern that this is a “ruse” can be dispelled. There is genuine will on all sides to get this done.
- We are talking purely about the WRSJFA. The North and East are not part of this scenario.
Anything that keeps the SJFA involved is not a truly independent WoSFL the same as EoSFL and SoSFL, the Junior clubs who moved into the EoS relinquished SJFA membership, that should be a non-negotiable requirement.
Will it be a brand new league, or rebranded WRJFA?
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1 minute ago, theesel1994 said:
They wanted to move en masse. If they don't move they won't have a League to play in.
When did the clubs decide that?
Great if true.
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3 minutes ago, theesel1994 said:
I was under the impression if these talks were successful, applications may not be necessary. (At least, not for Junior clubs).
I was under the impression the WRJFA have effectively stood down (withdrawn their request to be a Pyramid league) and clubs are free to apply to the WoSFL as they wish, ie the WRJFA would continue with any that didn't wish to move?
Given that the application process is supposed to be open now until 31st March, there needs to be a bit of clarity surrounding it surely.
A meeting on 23rd suggests something else afoot, but doesn't leave clubs much time.
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So is the application process for the new WoSFL open and underway?
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I wonder how the ERJFA feel.............
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The new season is due to start on 25th July.
If the season is binned (and I really can't see any other outcome at the moment), if the situation is improved by June, then kick the season off on 4th July, with pre-season games in June.
Get clubs back on the pitch earlier and stretch the season out, could even have a winter break in January.
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NO FOOTBALL DAY 1: Toilet roll supplies secured. Gogsy has already started cracking jokes.
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22 minutes ago, DougJamie said:
Ok Medical Alert- They have no clue, as does nobody- Hearts are down , which is actually very funny- Wonder if Naismith will do a runner again
Ok SPFL alert - this isn't an SPFL thread.............
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2 minutes ago, gaz5 said:
First time I've got a semi for over 20 years.
FTFY
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2 minutes ago, marconi said:
are the L L/EOSL still on? after all the S F A cant tell them what to do
They can if there's no refs..............
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Apparently we're not anywhere near the peak of this virus yet in the UK, and it may be 6-8 weeks away. They're not going to resume football in the meantime, season is gubbed.
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Now that there's no football to talk about, we can fully focus on this thread to keep us going
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6 minutes ago, jimbaxters said:
Here’s hoping it extends to the “Junior football, what is the future?” thread.
It's immune.
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We'll just need to wait and see how long the suspension lasts.
Now that it's off, I guess they will want to be 110% sure of no risk before resuming, meaning the season could be gubbed.
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Games a bogey
LL, EoS, SoS and LL U20 leagues all off.
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20 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
So it's gone from nobody, to I don't recall too many.
It has been brought up with how the junior cup has diminished with decreasing membership, the SCC has either caught up with it or could certainly surpass it with the introduction of more west of Scotland teams.
Do you have any examples? in fact, don't bother, Mallo will be chuckling away to himself.
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10 minutes ago, Gordon EF said:
Yeah, that's fair enough.
If junior and ex-junior clubs are generally ambivalent about it then it dies off. I'm only saying that if it does turn out to be a bit of a sticking point, some kind of concession is probably a small price to pay.
Absolutely, it should not be a sticking point that derails anything.
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Just now, FairWeatherFan said:
Go back to whenever there's a prolonged discussion over SCC v Junior Cup.
I don't recall too many people describing the South Challenge Cup as "more valued and prestigious" as the Junior Cup.
It's not, it's a relatively new regional cup, but the opportunity is there to expand it and make it into something bigger and better.
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Just now, Gordon EF said:
Exactly. We can't have pops at certain junior folk for intransigence and then not be prepared to compromise on something that's important to a lot of people in the junior game that would make no material difference to the pyramid leagues.
It wasn't that important to the many Junior clubs who left (and are leaving) to join the EoS.
It shouldn't be used as a comfort blanket. If it is practical and workable to retain it as a national trophy in the current fixture calendar then fair enough, but I personally can't see a way of doing this or that clubs in the east will re-engage with it.
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3 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said:
You haven't been reading this thread very closely then.
What do you mean?
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18 minutes ago, Marshmallo said:
Got to laugh at people saying the "South Challenge Cup" is anywhere near as prestigious or valued as the Junior Cup.
Nobody said that, you're making stuff up again.
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4 minutes ago, cmontheloknow said:
All settled at the SFA AGM!
I joke.
By a show of hands no less
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Just now, theesel1994 said:
Who issues the fixtures for the South Challenge Cup? How do they work it when its entrants come from 3 different Leagues plus others?
I'm just trying to see how a Scottish Junior Cup could continue when they no loinger have the priority over fixtures that they currently enjoy.
The LL, EoS and SoS run the competition between them, they meet regularly. I guess the WoS will be added to that now. Given the same person does the fixtures for all three leagues, he schedules dedicated weekends for cup fixtures.
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