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  1. Even if that was the captor's/captors' intent, the odds of that happening as so deeply remote. For one thing, the first time she's seen in public, she'll be recognised - so how will they enroll her in school or allow her to make friends?

    Im sure it can happen. A change of hair colour, a few years older and the kid may be unrecognisable. Home school the kid until the whole thing dies down, make sure you move away from the immediate area. There is also nothing to say that eventually they do not get caught, but the kid could be well looked after in the meantime.

    Maybe the kind guy i am is just hoping for the best, (as i said before) but it can happen.

  2. It just sickens me to what her capturs are doing with the girl :(:angry:

    Now i know that it is unlikely to be the case, and it doesn't make it ok, but there is a chance they are treating the girl very well, and if they are not returned to their real parents, the girl will lead a happy life with them.

  3. :lol::lol::lol::lol: go out with him?? are you taking the piss???

    i wouldn't dare, it's natalie i feel sorry for

    And she reads this? I still think it is jealousy between u2

    I read the last bit after the comma as ,he has a c**t :lol:

    My first thought was that you 2 would get on really well

    :lol:

    That would be an interesting twist in the love affair wouldnt it :lol:

  4. you lot can take the piss all you want, but latino lover is a horrible horrible person, he's a compleate dick, trust me, your better off staying clear, especially when he's had a few drinks, he's a c**t

    Now it sounds like you are leaving yourself notes incase you forget that he is a c**t etc etc, and decided to go out with him. I don't think your advice is going to affect anyone on here.

  5. Thing is Div if anything happens you can hear and you would be straight across the road in a flash, you have put up safeguards in my view to prevent something bad happening.

    This couple had no safeguards in place.

    Do you really think that you can get across the road before it is too late?

    The couple had the "safe guard" of going to check every 30minutes or so (according to what someone else said on here) It may not be as good as a walky talky, but it was their "safe guard"

  6. I have to say however I wouldn't do the same thing in a foreign country but does anyone think the above actions are scandalous - should I be put in jail ???

    You had better watch out. Some of the goody 2-shoes on here will dob you in to the police, and you will be in jail before the week is out. I will delete this if you want to edit the incriminating evidence of your awful parenting :ph34r:

    edited to add:- As an overview, i think this is again proof that the people of PnB like to stick the boot in to people who are suffering, and the victims instead of looking at the sole point of blame, and the evil fucked up criminals that are the cause of the discussion.

  7. I don't think there would be any punishment worse for them than knowing they had in some way contributed to losing their daughter, even though she appears to have been taken by a very determined individual.

    Exactly, the fact that there has been no trace of who did this, to me shows that it wasnt just a random opportunistic abduction, and would likely have happened anyway :(

  8. I've also seen other reports where men ignore distressed young children in the street because they are scared to help incase people think they are child abusers.

    That is true. I took the Early Touches coaching certificate through the SFA, and one of the first things they told you is never to leave yourself alone with children. What a sad thing to have to make sure you do. :(

  9. Similarly, I could walk outside, run for ten minutes towards the main road, and dive out in front of a bus and probably die.

    Instead I'll minimise my risk by walking on the pavement and not diving in front of buses, instead crossing at quiet junctions or traffic lights. Sure, the bus could lose control and hit me and I'll die, but most would agree that I did everything I could to be safe whilst out and about, which would not be the case in the first instance.

    It's minimising the risk, not ruling out the possibility altogether.

    Im not saying it isnt minimising the risk. Steven is suggesting that it will stop it altogether if they had stayed with the kids.

  10. So you think this would have happened even if they had been in the room? :unsure:

    People like this look for a window of opportunity, I very much doubt this would have happened if they hadnt left them alone.

    So you are back to them sleeping in the same room, and basically chaining them to you. Yes people like this look for a window of opportunity, but that could be when everyone is sound asleep, or when everyone is playing around the pool and the parents take their eyes off the kids for a second, or when the parents are in a shop and looking at a jumper they want to buy.

  11. Maybe but the chances of somebody taking the risk while the parents are in the same place is much less remote than if the kids were left alone. It's like a green light for any would be Abductor to strike.

    Leaving them alone is a open invitation to somebody to go and snatch them.

    It still needs someone to go and snatch them. As i said before, to think that this will not happen ever if no kid is left alone is incredibly naive. It certainly made it easier for the abductor to strike, but the likelihood is they would have still done it.

  12. I'm a light sleeper, even a mobile phone in another room wakes me up.

    But the point is I doubt somebody would take the risk if two parents where in the place and even if they did that three kids screaming wouldnt wake up at least one of the parents.

    Kids get abducted when they are playing in playgrounds. Someone tried to abduct my brother from outside our school, when all the other parents were there. It is incredibly naive to think that these people, fucked up as they are, wouldnt try and take a kid from their room if the parents are in the room next door. Remember everyone could be sleeping, all it takes is for someone to be quiet, go to the kid, cover their mouths so that they cant scream and get out.

  13. Likelihood now is remote sadly :(

    I was speaking about this last night last to somebody and she didn't believe they had left 2 kids aged 2 and one aged 3 alone. She thought the girl had just been snatched from them and was shocked (She is a mother of two young children herself)

    Hopefully this will act as a painfull lesson for parents everywhere and the same thing dosent happen again!

    And what happens when the next time, the abductor breaks in and takes the child when the parents are also sleeping? which could just as easily have happened in this case.

    Unless you chain your kids to you, sadly you are never going to stop this happening.

  14. I'd say the parents were certain, that having something to eat 50 yards away from where their children were sleeping, was perfectly safe.

    I'm sure their feeling bad enoug, without some teenage know it alls judging them :angry:

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    Personally, I can't compare that to sitting in the back garden having a barbeque.

    So it wasn't quite 50 yards away then, and puts a different twist on events. However if the kid was taken from the row of apartments behind the bar, it is comparable :lol:

  15. Folk that when they park a car up a hill not leaving car in forward gear, and failing to engage hand break in the correct fashion. Therefore leading to car rolling down most of the hill and hitting my van at the bottom of the hill :thumbsdown

    Ouch, but at the same time very funny :lol:

    Sometimes i wish that would happen to my car. I need a new paint-job.

  16. And as Stewie Griffin has said if this was unemployed parents who had went across the road to a pub and left their young kids at home and a fire had started they would have been hanged for being daft enough to leave their kids in that situatuon.

    I see no difference as in both situations they are leaving young kids alone in a room with no supervision.

    There is a huge difference in the 2 situations however. If the abductor (if that is what happened) did not do anything, the kids would have been perfectly safe. Although i personally would never leave my kids in the apartment on their own, like Sam i think some of the abuse the parents are getting here is OTT. From what was said, the parents were about 100feet away from the apartment, so if a fire or anything like that happened, they were close enough to react quickly. How many people here, when they have BBQs sit outside while the kids are inside sleeping/playing, which would be an identical scenario here. It isn't as though they are miles away in a pub or something is it?

    However most of all, hopefully the little girl is found safe and well.

  17. I watched Stay, which is a Ewan Mcgregor film that came out last year or the year before. It has Ewan Mcgregor as a Phsychiatrist who treats a patient who seems to know things are going to happen. He tells him he will commit suicide on his 21st birthday on the coming saturday. Naomi Watts is in it as Ewan's wife, and Ryan Gosling is the patient.

    ALthough a lot of people will probably hate it (can't say why as it will give away the ending), i thought it was a great storyline, and visually, the way the film goes from 1 scene to the next was brilliant. It can get a bit confusing but keep with it to the end.

    8/10

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