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If you've ever wondered why there is a never ending cycle of violence between Israel and Gaza, here's why.

Palestinians are Semites; Jews are Ashkenazi.

Before that point that was my evidence for why I feel it was most likely the Ukrainians who launched the missile. If it turns out I was wrong, I'll simply have to shrug my shoulders and say I called it wrong, but only time will tell. The part you quoted was why I think it happened, and yes you can't speculate about why without turning it into a so called "conspiracy theory". However, the likelihood is your an ignorant f**k when it comes to understanding how the world really works, and have probably never heard of the institutions I just mentioned never mind understand how they work. So it's no surprise it either sounds scary or absurd concept to you. Mind you, you were probably one the people who dismissed the Boston Bombings last year. Despite being shown clear cut evidence of fake Hollywood explosions. Sheeple will be sheeple I guess.

I want to make it clear when the event first happened there was a lot of speculation and misinformation, which always happens during these tragedies. There was speculation like an attempted assassination on Putin and even killing a passenger because they recently found a cure for cancer When it comes to spotting false flags, the first thing I look out for is the authorities quick to blame or bring forward an agenda. When it was not clear what happened or who done it (like with the 3 Israeli teenagers a few weeks ago). Then you want to look to see if any dodgy legislation gets passed by government shortly afterwards, because the chances are that bill was written weeks, months or years beforehand. Government investigations are notoriously slow and careful. Meaning something of this magnitude would usually take months and sometimes years to complete, and all the evidence would be released to the public afterwards. When I first heard about the crash. My first instinct was to question why an airliner would fly over such a region? Then it was to question if it malfunctioned and crashed or was it shot down? If it was shot down, then by whom? Did they shoot it down by accident? If not why? As for flying over such a region it turns out the Ukrainian authorities diverted it over the region and then told it to lower it's altitude by 2000 feet. It was definitely shot down, it was confirmed the plane was in full working order beforehand. The evidence points towards the Ukrainian's doing it, with the intention of blaming it on the Russian's It was definitely not an accident. Why? Because audio between a "supposed" rebel commander and Russian general. Talking about the event after it just happened, was time stamped the day beforehand. Not only that, an independent expert confirmed the file had two different audio streams. Proving it had been edited. Lastly, I'm pretty sure such high level people like that would have their phone calls encrypted. To me the most damning evidence of all is the tweets coming out from the Spanish air traffic controller, which were deleted not long after, but you can't delete truly delete something once it's uploaded online. _________________________- 0:21 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Kiev Authorities, trying to make it look like an attack by pro-Russians. 10:25 – 17 de jul. de 2014 [Miitary] has taken control of Air Traffic Control in Kiev. 0:35 – 17 de jul. de 2014 They are threatening us in the control tower at Kiev airport. 11:48 – 17 de jul. de 2014 The B777 plane flew escorted by Ukraine jet fighter until 2 minutes before disappearing from the radar. 11:54 – 17 de jul. de 2014 2 jet fighters flew very close minutes before; wasn’t downed by a fighter. 12:01 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Shot down by Kiev. Here we know it and military air traffic control also. 13:31 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Military confirm It was Ukraine, but still does not know where the order came from. 15:26 – 17 de jul. de 2014 The report indicates where the missile had come out [from], and specified it is not from the rebel areas. 16:06 – 17 de jul. de 2014 Military commanders here (ATC) control tower, confirm that the missile is from the Ukranian army. ___________________________ Quo Bono? This is probably the most important question of all, and the most crucial aspect of that is are they mad enough to do it, as most people wrongly focus on if a side was bad enough to do it. The Ukrainian's and the West have far more to gain from staging this event, than the rebels and Russian's. It's a good way to increase the cold war rhetoric and try to isolate it and put more sanctions on Russia. Like with Obama's Executive Order which banned imports of AK47's. If the Russian's did it, wouldn't they increase their rhetoric about wanting to intervene in the conflict? Which to me looks inevitable at some point, and I doubt Putin would need a false flag to justify an invasion like he needed with Chechnya. As for my own theory I think it most likely had something to do with the BRICS meeting the day beforehand. They set up their own bank to rival the IMF, which is funding the Nazi regime in Ukraine. The dollar standard is slipping and the people who own the Federal Reserve know it. The big worry is are they willing to start WW3 to protect it. After all, they went to war with Iraq and Libya to protect the petro dollar status, and it's the reason why we've had such strong anti-Iranian rhetoric over the years. I think the answer is most likely they won't start WW3. I think there plan will be to let the current system collapse and try and try and replace it with a new system which is favourable to them, but there is no knowing what will truly happen.

You're either... A - Not very bright B - Haven't done any of your own research and taking MSM's word as gospel C - Desperately want to believe it was the Russian's/rebels

They should start making planes out of passport material.

So apparently they're able to pull a bunch of fresh passports with uncreased tickets still inside them. Yep, that makes sense

Given planes are safer to travel in than cars, buses and trains the answer would be no. Aside, there is no guarantee that having a parachute or oxygen mask would make the difference between life or death.

Aye, Russia was behind it.

Didn't YouGov polls say Labour were going to win the last election with a crushing majority?

Seen a video of the plane crash, and there is no mid-air explosion, which you'd expect had a missile been fired at it. It looks like it might be a legitimate crash from an on board malfunction, or there was some kind of EMP attack on it.

Liewell planned it, and intended to make money off it by shorting the Malaysian Airlines.

Here's how I see things panning out over the next 5 years. The Palestinian Authorities are very weak, and will collapse in the near future. When that happens Israel will reoccupy Palestine. Because of this there will be no two state solution. Netanyahu is already on record saying there will be no Palestinian state. Israel will impose a harsh treaty, which Palestinian's will be coerced into accepting. Given they'll have no room for negotiation at this point. However, this will put Israel in an sticky situation, because they'll no longer be able to claim there is no Apartheid in Israel. This will destroy the left, because they it will be the end of the road when it comes to a two state solution. However, this will put Western nations in an impossible situation, because they can no longer spin Israel is defending itself from Palestinian aggression, or be able to ignore the blatant Apartheid situation. Even the Zionist lobbies in this country and America will come under heavy pressure, and be forced to greatly modify their stance on the situation.

I don't think it's considered a war crime, but maybe an act of terrorism. However, in this instance the plane flew over a war zone. So it can't be considered anything more than an act of stupidity from the pilot.

That's because no one, including me thought about what independence really meant, but with a bit of research and reflection I quickly became a yes voter in 2012.

Interesting theory behind the ongoing Gaza attacks. 

Are these new seats for the away fans? If so will this mean we can close the McDermid stand when we know only a few hundred away fans are coming to visit.

But what if the people living in Barrhead feel they're 2nd class citizens to the ones living in Glasgow and are excluded from society? Can the people in Glasgow really blame the people in Barrhead for thinking and acting in the way they do. When they continue to trample over their human rights, and subject them to all kinds of oppression. Wouldn't it be fair to say the people in Barrhead are resisting occupation? Rather than being portrayed as something as vague and condescending as "terrorists"

Prove me wrong then, although the truth is you can't and most crucially won't.

I've mentioned this before in another thread. The root cause of the pro-Israeli bias goes back to understanding how money works and who controls it.

I think we can safely say it's a skewed poll among their support. Given I can think of 3 Zombie mates who are voting yes.

Surely they're going to sell off Murray Park in the near future. That place must cost an absolute fortune to run every year. A place like that is not sustainable unless your in the Champions League every year, which unless the format changes by doubling the amount of entrants, then they won't be playing in it for a long time. Maybe building that hotel would have been a better idea after all.

I think the 'no' vote will either be out of fear for their current situation becoming worse. or indoctrination into the current setup. However, it shouldn't be underestimated that non-voters are more likely to be yes voters. I'll definitely make an effort to get my non-voter friends to the polling station.

Right now I would say there is a 45-55 split in the votes, but I think once the campaign starts to ramp up in July/August, then we'll start to see a gradual shift to the oposite.