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Does anyone have a list or a link that takes you to the full list of criteria which will allow a team to pass licensing in WOSFL ?

A couple of things I don't think any change that will happen the way we view it on this subject until a number of years. Yes we all know the SFA are the admistrator of all of it but they know its harming Scottish Football and you never know they may look at ways of changing it, even though most of them look after themselves. Wishful thinking but its nice to think I never said anything about the junior teams, (Aberdeen, Tayside, Lothian, EOS etc...), being forced into the pyramid, far from it. I'm an advocate for the pyramid but if a team or group of teams don't want to join it then I say - fine, don't. The part in Bold that I marked, agree 100% and each year I expect a LL or HL team to be promoted and genuinely expect the clubs to go down being Brechin City, Stenhousemuir, Cowdenbeath and Albion Rovers unless they have an epiphany and realise they have to get their finger out of their ass and improve.

Yeah agree but you keep on about what these self preservation teams did, yeah we all know those teams fecked everyone over and will continue to do so as they have hown their true colours. Who gives a fck what Brechin's and Stenny teams think, their chairman is only interested in their club and attitude of feck football in Scotland long team but guess what, his team are one of the teams who I expect to be relegated soon so he wont have a say and |Brechin, I get the feeling when, not if, relegated that they will be going to the Highland league after the shit he pulled. The teams who are promoted from the highland league/Lowland league playoff will I expect vote for 2 relegation is best. The SFA Blazers are not blind to it, they are going with the old fashioned SPFL 2 teams but if everything is sorted lower down and proving stronger teams then eventually they will give in and yes 10 team league is no use as a 14 or 16 SPFL2 would be better. These are the things that need to get sorted or tweaked and as I aid before, which most of us know, get our houses in order, highland league with the Aberdeen section, the Lowland league with new additions, Lothian and East junior team joining and the last to sort out is the Tayside then there is no looking back

Yeah but thats what I mean, these teams Brechin, Stenny, Cowdenbeath, if they don't improve, then they are eventually fecked over time as every team coming up is way stronger, so those four and a few other WILL get relegated and all the ones moving up, you would expect to have the two relegated attitude. Regarding the youth set up, you have two main ones, The pro youth set up and the development youth set up, ( not including the Highland league section as I don't know enough about it). The development youth set up only has one problem which is Covid, if it wasn't for that then it would be flying. The pro youth set up, your always gonna have teams like Celtic and Rangers, Aberdeen etc... who take about 40 boys and are only really interested in about 4 or 5 of them and the rest are treated as canon fodder, which I don't think will ever change

Hopefully this is understood the way I want it conveyed, fekcing hard to read it back to myself a few times and change to make sure lol These are just all insular groups who think that everything matters for their own personal satisfaction. Do we all agree, any team from the highland League or the Lowland league who get promoted, wont be relegated from the SPFL, infact do we probably expect the promoted teams will be chasing for promotion the following year from the SPFL 2, which means the regulars SPFL prop up teams like Brechin City, Stenhouemuir, Cwdnbeath's, Albion Rovers teams will eventually be relegated one at a time and I wouldn't expect any of us t think they will bounce back the following year. This is something that the SP||F|L 2 clubs cant avoid, one team relegated each year. Thus any team being promoted have any common sense will vote for two automatic promotions from the Lowland or Highland league, knowing there's a great chance bouncing back if relegated from the SPFL 2 league the previous year. if all this doe happen then yeah eventually in the future the chairmen of Stenny, Brechin etc.. will be fecked with their self preservation

How much are Dundonald Bluebell expected to make from last week's televised match against Queens Park. If its a lot then obviously it will make the rest of the junior teams sit up and take notice of the potential possibilities

Yeah agree, If the standard continues to rise, in the West as in the East and hopefully the South then the Lowland will get their house in order but its nearly there to be honest, and I expect in a couple of years and the standard in each association will be class. I'm expecting most if not all the East, Lothian junior teams left will join the pyramid in 21/22 so hopefully within a couple fo years the introduction of the Aberdeen sides and Tayside sides to the pyramid and again, the standard will rise and as Cyclizine says, either the Lowland or the Highland winning the relegation play off constantly to take the final spot in the SPFL 2 then I'm sure it wont be long until SFA realize this is the way to go and have automatic relegation from the SPFL2

Yeah thats no argument there as I state the same in my post, we all know its happening, but eventually I believe there will be change. I'm not saying when but lets put it this way, most of the team going the now in the WOSFL, EOSFL, LL, HL intend to be operating for another hundred years so there will be change sometime. Eventually someone will balls high up in the SFA will get the rule change. Its a FACT, we all know, the rules voted in by the SPFL2 are harming Scottish football and I believe it will change and hopefully in my lifetime

Think they lease it from some community/council group Yeah Lobby I agree with you about turkey voting for xmas but eventually it will change. its harming Scottish Football and are the blazers prepared to allow it to happen, They are at the moment but eventually there will be a shift change and it will happen. Want to see everything under SP|FL 2 get their houses in order and organized> lets put it this way, the teams that have went up in recent years, will they vote on the SPFL side or the lower league sides, Edinburgh City for example, which way would they vote. I could see them voting for promotion and relegation between Highland/Lowland league and SPFL and each year the promotion wize, I will expect the winners to be form the Highland and Lowland league and I'm sure the team moving up would vote for the lower levels having access. Quite clearly if Brechin vote against it and they finish bottom, then they will play off against the winner of the Highland league or the Lowland league and id put my money on Brechin going down, Their if their elf centered chairman or Stenhousemuir self centered chairman has voted against lower level team coming up then their teams will find it years and years before they ever come back up, which personally I will love. East Stirling and Berwick Rangers are in it and admit they will find it hard to get back up with many of their fans stating they are at the right level

Excuse my ignorance but I'm unsure what you mean by if still at Darvel you could go and watch Were you on the coaching staff or on the committee as that's the only way you can watch the game unless you watch it on a live stream. Obviously only those types of people can go to the games as fans and neutrals cannot and the players, coaching and committee staff are all involved in track and trace so there are precautions in place. Are there clubs who exploit it, I probably think so but as far as I'm aware its organized but even the more professional teams at a higher level are being caught out with Covid

You will have teams trying to get licensed in time for this season in the hope of winning the WOSFL premier division but only 1 can win the title and if they are licensed then they can be put forward to the playoffs. I can see Clydebank, Darvel etc... trying to win the league now as in next season, if all Covid goes to plan and all the big hitters will be back, Pollok, Auchinleck then it will be harder to win the league next season. Right now, I wouldn't want a club to go all out as we don't know if and when everything is back to normal as in, fans, crowds, full sponsorships etc... unless the club know its financially viable to do so now. Personally for any club, I don't see a rush, as I take it most clubs will be looking to run for another hundred year and new clubs intend to do the same so they can get licensed any time when ready to start. I would like them to get licensed knowing they can fully support the outlay and even later the benefits that possible may come e.g television money from the big Scottish cup. Running floodlights etc.. Obviosity has costs but some of these team, Clydebank and Yoker for example will have the park used constantly for their youth academy thus generating money from this to go towards payments The only problem I can see is that the SFA make it harder to become licensed but I'd rather they look at the closed shop attitude of the SPFL2 clubs and override their votes, somehow and state that promotion, relegation to and from SPFL2 should and will happen every year in the not to distant future. There should and I genuinely expect in that there will be automictic promotion from other winners of the Highland and Lowland league as the standards will be strong against the SPFL 2 teams or even stronger. Casing point this year, Brora Rangers from the Highland league putting Albion Rovers out and Linlithgow Rose putting Brechin City out. We all know theres a few things to be ironed out, for example, there should be leagues under the main highland league, tayside teams sorted, the North junior teams sorted etc..

Couple of things regarding a few recent posts. Most teams who withdrew have their official reasons and the real reasons but in general, Finances are the main reason of nearly every team that withdrew and I don't blame them. Health and safety would be next. Pollok as an example is a minimum of £3000 a week wage bill, (probably nearing £4000) checking my math's for the 3 grand weekly and that works out at £12,000 a month and that is £144,000 a year. How the hell would they cover that with no fans and less sponsorship, I do not know, so withdraw is the perfect solution and at that, they are allowed to come back into the league in the same position next year. It's common sense for all concerned especially the WOSFL and the LL association as they do not want any West team to fold during these hard times, thus they came up with the withdraw idea. None of us have ever been in such a situation with this pandemic and it was hard enough all the junior teams league the junior league to become senior teams with quite a few not happy about it. We all know the reasons. The teams that have continued is great as I've been able to watch quite a few streamed games and enjoyed them, so thanks to all Are there still people unhappy leaving the juniors to join the pyramid/senior league. yes of course there are but it will take a while for this to change, especially when the ones with the attitude are changed over in their respective committees with younger people who have a vision to progress. In relation to the comment about rather have postponed games than astro pitch is a bit laughable but laughable from my own viewpoint. Artificial parks do not detract from the standard of play, nearly all teams train on artificial parks and are all fully versed on the surface and how to play on it. However, I think we are all agreed, grass is preferable, but ffs, we are in Scotland.

There's no rush, some clubs will push to be licensed and then hopefully get promotion, some will not. That's the beauty of the pyramid, if you want to try and see how far you can go then its there for you. if you want to stay where you are then you can

Hurlford were down at the bottom from, (I'm sure) 1992 until 1999, Vandals broke into the park and destroyed a lot of it. SO the team were in the wilderness until a new chairman came in with money to spend and in season 1999/20 they won promotion to the old Ayrshire first division

I haven't seen any of the LL teams or EOS teams, is there a big gap between the 3 Associations top Leagues ? Do most think the winner will be from the LL league than from the WOS or EOS. I haven't seen any WOS stand outs, lot of good teams but no one right out there on top

lololol, ffs at the same time

No Andy, nothing is made up but we can all wait for your smarmy remarks as you think your funny, and that's not from me, that quoted from others

Who are the favorites for the last years cup, (19/20) which is at the semi final stage As the Leagues are in full flow now who are the favorites for this years cup (20/21)

Any idea what was the official reason why they withdrew. I don't remember seeing it

Think the floodlights were always gonna happen, just a great It makes much to sense, getting the locals youth closer as it makes access and use of the park during midweek easier

Hey I'm only gonna be condensing to ones who deserve it after starting on me and I think you know that only too well Jim

I seriously burst out laughing loud there. Jim go and sit beside Andy. I'm gonna get my wet suit on and take you both out for fishing lessons. Anyways back to Fair's comments, yes he's right and he knows as well as us that if Auchinleck won the league next season, they can stay in the same league by not fulfilling all the licensing criteria. Personally why would any team not want to take the chance and see where it leads. They can always go back down to the WOSFL in the future but losing. I believe Pollok withdrew purely for financial reasons. I mean it would be a minimum £3000 weekly wage bill with no supporters paying and less sponsorship so they were quite right to withdraw, would Auchinleck be in the same position, doubt it as they have money but they had their reasons to withdraw. Every team who stayed and every team who withdrew had their reasons and should be commended

pmsl, we've caught a big one skipper, looks like a 65 pounder but if it had a brain it would be double the weight

ffs i forgot my fishing rod, nope hold on, ive got a hook

Pmsl, im just luring you into a false sense of security. if you wanna know how a euphemism is, don't be afraid to ask on here, I'm sure there will be a few who will help you out or you just scared the pie hut might get moved