Toby

And I’m entitled to call it out as complete nonsense, based on the evidence that we get seasons completed on time, year on year, having played through the winter, mostly on grass parks- with 10/12 in the Premiership and 8/10 in our division. Your opinion, whether you’re entitled to it or not, doesn’t stand up to any scrutiny, and should be ridiculed. There’s a massive difference between them “not working” and “not suiting the preferences of Raith Rovers or their fans”.

What nonsense.

It could have happened with ourselves and Forfar at the top of League One in 2015. Morton were at home to Peterhead on the final day with a record of P35 F62 A39 Pts66. Forfar were at home to Ayr with a record of P35 F58 A40 Pts66. A 2-1 win for Morton and a 6-0 win for Forfar would have seen the teams end on identical records of P36 F64 A40 Pts 69. The head-to-heads between the teams were: Forfar 3-2 Morton Morton 2-0 Forfar Forfar 1-2 Morton Morton 0-2 Forfar So an aggregate head-to-head of 6-6, although Morton scored more away goals, which wouldn’t be considered. In the end, Morton won 3-1 and Forfar lost 1-3 so Morton won the title without too much sweat on the final day.

Agree about McDonald, aye. What could be interesting is the Scottish Cup rules regarding goalkeepers, should McDonald not be fit to play. You have to have a designated keeper on the bench for cup ties, so if it gets to the point that Murdoch is the only available keeper, there becomes a bit of a stand off between the SFA’s rules and their insistence that we carry on regardless.

Hasn’t Imrie already said we were knocked back for an emergency loan? He’s had Murdoch on the bench for long enough now, so whether Dougie thinks he’s ready for first team football or not, that’s not how the governing bodies will look at it. They’ll see him as a viable alternative and we’ll just have to get on with it.

Jesus wept.

What’s the big issue if they are? We’ve had a couple that missed out on Saturday and some who took sore ones against Airdrie, it’s not some big conspiracy.

Broken by the League Cup Final defeat to Rangers and a Scottish Cup 2nd round defeat by Celtic.

Failing to beat a better side when they have ten men, and conceding one penalty in the penultimate game at Cappielow hardly constitute horror shows. The afternoon that Ferrie had a howler, yes. And you maybe deserved better from the draw at Ochilview because of the disallowed goal, but one out of six isn’t even close to “always” producing a horror show.

Since you were promoted, you’ve drawn twice and lost four times to a single goal, hardly a horror show. You’re only Queen’s Park, you hardly have the divine right to expect to beat a team like Morton.

I told myself I wouldn’t rise to this, but again, you’ve reeled me in, against my better judgement. As cappiecat told you, you haven’t in fact been banned from the Morton Forum- your posting has been restricted, and that may well be reviewed. Personally, I was against restricting your posts for a couple of reasons- firstly, your main “crime” was the outburst against Imrie, which had already been dealt with. The only other one was the minor irritation of spamming the forum with nonsense, and while I’ve got no sympathy for you, I didn’t think it merited such restrictions, but it’s not my decision. Secondly, I predicted you’d be on here moaning about it and talking the forum down, which you have this week. What did surprise me was that even the guys on here who have no time for the Morton Forum and its mods/regular posters, have no time for your carry on either. I expected it to be the perfect opportunity for them to stick the boot in, but you’ve really united the masses, well played. What I will say though, is that some of the treatment you’ve had on here from one individual in particular- actively encouraging even Dunfermline fans to completely disregard you, and hammering you on this thread and the Morton thread, is pretty outrageous, and hypocrisy at it’s finest, given that the same person tagged myself, vt and Mr. Blue just before Christmas, accusing us of bullying you. I admit that I spat the dummy with you, and called you some not very nice things I probably shouldn’t have, just like you’ll regret your own outburst at Imrie. I’ll do him the courtesy of not naming him like he did me, but it won’t take a rocket scientist to work out who I’m talking about. Parsforlife has it spot on though- this weekend should be one that we’re all absolutely buzzing, but again this minor episode has snowballed. At least if your posting wasn’t restricted across by, everyone’s (your) dirty washing wouldn’t be getting such a public airing. Hope you, and my pal who I’ve not named, have had as lovely a weekend as I’ve had.

We had a stonewall penalty in our game at Gayfield in December last season that wasn’t awarded, and Ricky Little should have been ordered off for a handball on the line. Assuming we’d have scored said penalty and gone onto win the game, that decision ultimately cost us a play-off place. These things happen, some you get, some you don’t. You weren’t at a Ibrox on Saturday- you were at Cappielow. There’s no inherent pro-Morton or anti-Arbroath bias, no matter how much of a comfort blanket you’re looking for. I’d suggest you dry your eyes- nobody’s out to get you.

The Rangers game had finished though. I dare say I could find it somewhere, but I think they kicked off half an hour before our game. Given that our game went into extra time, it probably all kicked off about an hour after full time at Ibrox, so it wasn’t a case of them being re-located from Ibrox, they were just in the area at the time.

As far as I remember, Rangers were playing St. Johnstone in a televised game with an earlier kick off that night and by coincidence some cops were on their way back to Greenock having worked at Ibrox and were told to get to Cappielow after the trouble kicked off. By the time it kicked off we were in extra time so I dare say that could’ve been an explanation for why there were so many.

I’d imagine that’s a courtesy thing from Queen of the South. More often than not announcements like that are made by the player’s “new” club. Looks like they jumped the gun and then pulled it because Morton hadn’t announced anything, possibly at Morton’s request.

Speak for yourself, I quite like Partick.

Morton weren’t trailing at half time.

Could’ve just stopped there and you wouldn’t have been far off the mark, tbh.

Remember listening to Hughes on Radio Scotland a few years ago, when the Morton job was available, probably around the time Ray McKinnon was appointed and swiftly left; Hughes was asked if he’d be interested in it. He quickly gave a diplomatic answer along the lines of “Oh aye, Mortun ur a good club like, but ah don’t think it’s one that would interest me”. Didn’t know how to take that- relief that that fool would be unlikely to ever darken our door or to take offence to the idea that he thinks that he’s above managing my club as opposed to Morton being above his station. Suspect his stance would be different now and he’ll be filed alongside Mark McGhee as one of those guys whose name I’ll be terrified to see crop up when Dougie eventually departs.

We’ve all done that, in fairness.

He openly admitted in one of the red tops prior to the final game of the season in 2018 that he’d chucked it that season and wasn’t giving his all, which isn’t what you want to hear from one of your senior players. And after hearing rumours of signing for the likes of Hearts, taking a sideways step (which turned out to be a backwards step with them going down) to Partick didn’t exactly endear himself to the fans when we met again. I think it’s fair to say he wasn’t the most popular amongst fans, teammates and staff even when things were going well for him at Morton as he generally carried (and still carries) the demeanour of a complete arsehole, but I suppose that’s just my opinion and perception of how others see him. I could be, but very much doubt that I’m wrong. I see from the weekend that he’s still in the habit of bawling at his teammates when things go tits up, rather than accepting that he too might be responsible now and again.

For more important for me is the refusal to allow physical ticket sales in the half hour before kick off though- it’s basically a restriction of trade, for no apparent reason. The police presence at the game was excessive to say the least, too. The last time I recall any serious trouble at a derby was about 15-20 years ago when some fanny threw a brick at the St. Mirren fans at Cartsdyke, I can’t think of anything since. I suppose the police can say the match passing off without trouble justifies the police presence, but it stinks of them coining in a shit ton of overtime and passing the cost onto Morton. Makes you wonder if such a fixture is really worth it in the first place, when it really doesn’t have to be played.

I’d go further and say worse than both are folk who continually tag players on social media- there’s one Morton fan in particular I can think of, a guy in his forties, who’s regularly doing this. Brian Schwake was his most common victim last season. I can imagine players are happy to sign autographs and pose for selfies in and around the ground on match days, and will probably put up with teenagers doing this because of their youth, but grown men, ffs… Leave them alone, they’re individuals that are quite entitled to a private life without being constantly harassed by overgrown groupies.