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I'm not too familiar with Wings, is he not some nutter on Twitter? I'm not even deriding the poll, the poster said it showed unprecedented support for Independence, it may do in the context of previous polling but as a stand alone statement then a few thousand people in a poll isn't the highest unprecedented support shown for Independence. I think support would be a lot lower if Sturgeon was to go, I've said it before and I'll say it again she's a brilliant politician and plays the game very well.

Polls don't win referendums though, as it stands the status quo remains and until a referendum is impending then we won't see accurate reflection on how people would vote. So the onus is certainly on the Yes side to convince people to support the SNP at the next elections if they desire independence.

The onus to provide new arguments is certainly not on the Unionists...

Page 50000 of When Will It Happen - "Oh aye any minute now, it's a cert"

I think the results of the initial poll are quite a good example of the lack of objective analysis in this place. 38% said before 2020, can we see who voted for such nonsense?

How many people voted in this poll compared to those that actually voted for Independence...?

Do you have an alarm set to click on my page to go to recent posts or is it a bit more free flowing? I respect the latter, the former is a tad obsessive.

People will always say that want Utopia, hence the polls, when the discussion comes back to the forefront then the stated Utopia sounds a bit shite and people vote accordingly.

Welshbairn reacts to my single one with 31 in the space of 2 minutes. I'm almost impressed at your dedication and fractured ego!

Brave OP. 2 pages of frothing af the mouth over the suggestion the dear leader isn't doing so well. Bawwaching beyond seething, handing out over 25 red dots on a Tuesday morning at 3am after clicking my profile, is it rent free the youngsters say? That's some dedication.. As Kinky said, Independence movement will suffer hugely when Sturgeon goes, hence the sheer panick and fingers in the ears going on in this thread. Nicola Sturgeon although recently performing terribly has done well in her tenure, she's done very well when having nothing to do and is a good political agitator for the morons that don't really pay attention to the promises and words that come out her mouth, a very old school sly politicians politician. Sleekit as you Scots would say. She would make an excellent Tory MP to be fair to her, there is nobody close to her in the SNP that is as sly or as good at manipulating common voters. The only potential outcome I see is Cherry but she's not going to do well with the middle ground, she's a little bit more incapable of playing politics imo, very intelligent lady but can't hide the typical Nationalist venom you can see dripping from her every time she's on TV. I suspect many of you don't realise how good you've had it with Sturgeon and when we're 50 years later and polling hasn't touched the highs of 2020 then you'll be reminiscing of what could have been! What could've been if you hadn't put out so many shite posts on Pie and Bovril and had actually engaged with the argument, what could have been if Sturgeon hadn't tried to play politics with a pandemic, what could have been if big auld Salmond hadn't decided to rear his ugly head again over his damaged ego. So anyone that actually supports the SNP got any salient points on who they think the next leader will be rather than the usual grunting so loud to try and defend the hivemind.

Ahah I reckon if it's been accurately edited they deserved it for discounting him in the first place all the youngsters chucked him on the scrap heap and were doubting him like some crazy old guy.

Where as your posts really make my day.

You can talk about what you want. I can also comment on whataboutery.

How do celtic fans think they'll line up for the fixture? Many changes needed due to the players that are out or were they unlikely to play?

C4 TV show where a group of people live in rural Scottish location and need to build a bridge over water in 20 days to win 100 thousand pounds. Strange concept and shite reality TV but I've got time off work at the moment and surprisingly enjoyed the show. Plenty of good guys and wanks. I'm on Sly's side..

Bring on CANZUK!

Some people on here dont hold the same degree of scrutiny or vitriol towards SNP MPs that do worse or similar and it's very transparent.

I'm not a big fan, I'm just less of a fan of the sheer unchecked nonsense that gets posted here about Unionists or people who have chosen to vote for Brexit or Tories etc.. I'm a centrist trying to reign in the nutters by giving them little red dots...

Tell me how long it took to remove the whip from the rapey Tory MP? You guys and what about Tories, crazy.

It shows that Ferrier was convinced by SNP party that she was safe, a few hours later after the public backlash she has been chucked out the doors to the wolves. Sturgeon is now lying about signal issues to explain the flip flop.

Tell us, what would you consider a reasonable timeline for Sturgeon to establish facts, speak to the multiple parties involved, discuss reach and convey a decision? What ever amount of time it would take why would the statement come first?

This guy doesn't like it when you post negative SNP stories then... calm down. People can read and decide for themselves, I did post it in the Nicola thread but you started derailing the subject to talk about Dominic Cummings (lol)

Some brilliant political maneuvering here. Treating the general public with such disdain you stop even trying to cleverly deceive them, just some straight up "dog ate my homework" type beat. https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-phone-signal-cutting-out-due-train-travel-reason-behind-delayed-withdrawal-whip-margaret-ferrier-3000862

Panicking? I've posted a laughable story about the FM lying and you've changed the subject about Dominic Cummings... way to hold your leaders to account and scrutiny, why bother doing that when you can just talk about Tories... https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/nicola-sturgeon-phone-signal-cutting-out-due-train-travel-reason-behind-delayed-withdrawal-whip-margaret-ferrier-3000862

What does Cummings have to do with Nicola lying, Ferrier lying and the SNP looking terrible and inept because of all of this?