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Just now, The Real Saints said:
This is absolute nonsense. Fake news.
Anyway, it comes as no surprise to me that Dundee United have tried to cheat the system in order to benefit themselves at our expense. It immediately brings April 2011 to the forefront of my mind, when Danny Swanson dived to get Steven Anderson sent off at Tannadice.
And what benefit is that?
Your not one of those clowns from Twitter saying it was because of injuries, when all the injuries put up had missed previous games and wouldn't be back for Tuesday anyway?
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1 minute ago, RandomGuy. said:
As far as I know, clubs are only allowed to be in the stadium a certain time before kick off.
Unless United gave a certain time (saying "1 or 2 hours" isnt that) Saints would be forced to leave Tannadice and just hang about somewhere outwith the stadium until given a kick off time. Then have to go through the sterilisation process all over again. Clearly they decided that was farcical as they'd already travelled through, got to the stadium and been through the whole process.
I've still no idea why it wasn't arranged for today.
Seemingly they did. They gave two times to kickoff either 4pm or 5pm depending on what was more suitable.
Agree with the option of today though, seems a sensible option.
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11 minutes ago, stumigoo said:
I see one of the reasons given by St Johnstone for not playing at 4 or 5 was Coronavirus protocols. What difference in protocols would there be for a kickoff delayed by an hour or two?
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I wonder if RG was just as angry with his own club when they've had the same issues?
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1 hour ago, realmadrid said:
When fans thought they were getting into grounds in October.
Some clubs also made promises , which I think they will forget about your ticket giving you 19 games in person. Thats just not going to be possible
Looking at your own club are you going to pay £500 for a ticket you cannot use but that gives you access to Rangers TV or £9.99 per game for exactly the same service? As the economy grinds to a halt a few will pick the later.
I bought my season ticket NOT expecting to be in the ground. I bought my season ticket to support the club and keep it in existence. No refunds expected nor wanted.
I'll be doing the same for next season. Not saying everyone else should, its their choice to do what they wish with their money depending on their own personal circumstances.
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On 05/01/2021 at 10:38, ahemps said:
I don't want to see football stopped and I would argue that it shouldn't but shutting schools and asking people to remain in their house while allowing non-professional/part time football to continue doesn't match up. Every time you go down a level it makes less sense. Maybe play Championship but leagues 1 and 2? Lowland league? Juniors, really?
As you have said, the example of a teacher who can't go to work but can play and train for the likes of Bo'ness 2-3 times a week. When gyms and leisure activities are shut to all yet at that level where they are basically glorified amateurs really doesn't make sense in the new situation.
Whilst I may agree with the sentiment, just for clarity, schools ARE NOT closed. The teacher will STILL be going into work under the current situation. The teachers are doing the remote learning from the classrooms and children of key workers will still be going into school (like my son) along with kids from vulnerable backgrounds.
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3 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:
Speaking of the new stand at Tynecastle, the Hearts CEO at the time has invited the golf correspondent to a square go at the North's equivalent of Ruel Street.
Completely sane behaviour as always from Gardiner.
That is incredible, unless there is some sort of friendship between the two of them and its the sort of stuff that is sent between friends. If not ICT do need a wee chat with him, even if it is between friends the chat might still be a good idea. Doesn't look professional at all, but then again neither has any of his utterances since March/April.
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2 hours ago, edthebaw said:
Jim Smith n Stewart Forsyth joined PolisOf course, how could I forget! Have dealt with Stewart many times through work and dealt with Jim before he retired. Decent guys.
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11 minutes ago, Tap in 94 said:
How long will it take for that bore Random to show up with his stats?
Surprised there hasn't been anyone here objecting to "Saintees" yet
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Ivan Golac once ran a chocolate factory in Belgrade after he had retired from playing.
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7 hours ago, Zen Archer Esq. said:
Ex-Dundee United Derek Stark joined the Police, as did Iain Livingstone who had a spell at Raith Rovers, he eventually became Chief Constable of Scotland.
So did Dave Beaumont (ex Dundee United & Hibs), Rab Shannon, Gary Ogilvie (ex Dundee, Sunderland & Airdrie), Nathan Lowndes.
John Holt used to sell copiers. Maurice Malpas helps his son in law tiling.
Neil Patterson captained United, before becoming a novelist and screenwriter and winning and Oscar for Room at the Top.
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21 minutes ago, Day of the Lords said:
GDS
Whilst an extreme example, he didn't really have a huge amount of decision-making power as far as i remember, he was mainly a media-whore gobshite. I've probably missed a few out but here's a quick run down of the more notable nutters during my time as a fan:
- Angus Cook - eventually done for fraud involving frozen chicken products. Also a massive Celtic fan.
- Andrew Drummond - notable for being punched in his office by the above. I also vaguely recall some cross-dressing/fight/drunk incident in the papers
- Ron Dixon - Lost interest. Built a greyhound track and wanted to build an 8000 seater stand where the Derry is, with a bridge over Dens Road to an ice rink.
- The Marrs - Took a massive gamble and almost completely finished the club. Basically set the club back 20+ years for 2 top six finishes and a shite cup final. See also aforementioned links to nutters like GDS, Arkan and various other dodgy individuals
- Calum Melville - See above. Been involved in various alleged frauds I believe
There are a few others, not to mention the various backstabbings when the fans group were in the boardroom.
Basically a near non-stop shambles for decades.
Add to that the Gellatly era. Dundee should have been the one.of the richest clubs in Scotland and much more difficult for United to have over taken. The amount of money that "allegedly" taken out of the club was substantial.
All rivalry aside, well run there is no reason Dundee shouldn't be Premiership regulars.
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On 28/12/2020 at 01:46, betting competition said:
Oh the memories of Jim McLean and Willie Miller having a set to at half time in an important cup replay at Dens.
I was at that game in the old stand at Dens right at the front row.
That was the game Paul Hegarty was sent off for the only time in his career for amfoul on Charlie Nicholas (who gave Hegarty a wee sneaky punch as he went down).
I remember that game for other reasons as I was at it with my mum, dad and wee brother. We were under orders to get home after it ASAP so she could check the camera hadn't spotted her giving Miller "a piece of her mind!"
On Jim though, outside of football he was a very decent man. When it came to football though he was a perfectionist. He didn't enjoy the victories (or even the achievements if he didn't win) as he was such a perfectionist as he would, as said previously, berate the team even in victory but it was himself that took the worst of it. He would always look back and have a go at himself for not doing this or that or that he could have done better.
It was the right time for him to step down when he did from managing as players had changed and the football had changed and I'm sure he said so himself, didn't quite relate to these times.
For a United fan like myself born in 75, I'm privileged to have grown up watching that. I may have appreciated it more as an adult, but as a child it seemed like it went on forever.
In 1984 while at primary school we had the school tv wheeled into the gym hall so that the school could watch the Roma away leg.
When ever you had football at school it was shirt out and socks rolled down to the ankles and that floppy collared top, a thing of beauty. When ever we got a holiday and went to Majorca or Tenerife when you spoke to a local, or French or German tourists and told them you were from Dundee, it was "Ahh, Dundee United". Altough Jerry Kerr had good results in the Fairs Cup, that was down to Jim Mclean.
My wee lad is the same age now as I was in 87, it is absolutely incredible and incomprehensible to him that the club reached those heights consistently, were well known across the continent and nearly signed a Brazilian world cup star.
It will never happen again for various reasons, sadly for well run clubs everywhere, but I'm glad I saw it.
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41 minutes ago, ArabFC said:
On a side-note, the Arabzone commentators are fucking horrendous! Can you please stop screaming stuff like “THATS A PENALTY, THATS A PENALTY” when it’s not a penalty?
They were terrible for that. Not sure what was more frustrating, the performance or the snooker-esque commentary.
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7 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said:
I think Benji got lumped in with Rakovan rather unfairly in the first season but in truth all the horror shows were with Rakovan in the goals. He laid down a marker in those play-off games and hasn't really looked back since.
I'd agree, always thought he looked decent. Took a wee bit of time to settle in, but you could always see he was decent. I'm sure we are the only club he has been no 1 ( 50 games in total prior to joining us) at and he has certainly grown into the role the longer he's been given that responsibility.
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2 hours ago, ArabFC said:
Mellon already knew this though - he admitted as much. We were playing a eye-bleeding brand of fitba because Micky wanted the brakes on to help make us tougher to beat.
So I wouldn’t be surprised to see us playing 5 at the back and 1 up top more this season still.
Yes, we saw that at the start of the season, but it was good to hear him say it publicly. We had stopped the rot but still continued with these tactics inviting pressure and causing us problems. We may see it, bit I'm hoping that it is the exception rather than the rule from now on as when we actually go forward we stop the opposition putting us under constant pressure.
Let's see how it goes though,3 points against Motherwell would be nice too!
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Noticed this quote from Mellon in the BBC match report...
"Marc McNulty does a power of work but he's better through the middle and Lawrence Shankland is better with someone playing off him.
Hopefully that's the end of the ultra defensive tactics and he uses tactics to bring out the best in those players (and Clark). Was good to see us cause a team problems.
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Sit in the East Stand, had a season ticket since 2007. Have sat/stood in every part of the ground except the Fair Play/Jim McLean stand .
Used to sit pretty much where the mood took me, until I got my season ticket where I sit with friends from work.
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3 hours ago, Green Day said:
I hadnt seen much of him, but had heard he was very good.
I think he is better than very good on yesterdays evidence.
I have no idea why Mellon started like that - and why he persisted for so long. Its irrelevant having the 3 attacking players on the park if there is no supply. You definitely played better when the wide players arrived.
I would also question removing Clark as the sub - it was Shankland that was contributing nothing.
That's pretty much the view of all United fans. I, and I'll guarantee I'm not alone, am getting sick of it. The enjoyment of watching the team play is gone, it's a chore to watch. He keeps sending the team out to not lose.
We didn't start the season like that, but he has taken fright. The stats all show a massive difference between goals scored and points won, when playing 442 and 532(let's face it, it is never only 3 at the back).
He came he and said the type of football he wanted to play, we are now playing something different from that where by we are the cause of most of our issues by being so passive and defensive, giving the ball away to the opposition as our only means of attack seems to be an aimless punt to the opposition's defense, every bloody game!
If we'd actually go and try and win a game from the start we might actually do it!!
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7 hours ago, PartyFears2 said:
We definitely stole a point there, but we’ll of course take it.
Mellon does have the 442-wingers-attack thing available to him but I think he’s married to our back 3 playing together and wanting Clark-McNulty-Shankland to all start..
ditch it, 442 v Killie. Have a go ffs
I totally agree. The stats are horrendous for the 3 centrebacks being on the pitch. We play so much better with four at the back. Refuse to call it 3.at the back as no matter the intent it IS 5 at the back we are playing.
It showed that we were starting to do OK until the management took fright and went all defensive to avoid loosing, rather than going out to win. Don't know what has to happen for Mellon to see what everyone else can see.
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40 minutes ago, Matchstick said:
Will Scotland get fined for their conga round the dinner table...or the U21 breach..double standards me thinks..
Firstly not condoning United at all, as that photo is a stupid thing to do, but you're right about the national team.
Scottishfootball protocol is (assume it cover national as well as club sides) states that they can be unmasked and within 2metres during matches and training but at ALL other times players must wear masks and socially distance from others.
That was put.out.on official national team social media and ALL thought it good and fun, but is a breach. The Under 21 incident is one of the things St. Mirren were done for.
Having said that I'll reiterate that the team photo was unnecessary and a stupid thing to do in current situation.
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17 hours ago, locheedee said:
Courier is running a story about utd's team photo being taken days before your coaches got told to self isolate.
Bloody stupid and completely unnecessary for a team photo to be taken. Even if we had no positive cases or self isolating it's an own goal, likely to be jumped on under the current situation. Just why would you put yourself in that situation.
Just for balance, the management staff and 9 players are isolating as a precaution due to 3 positive cases within the medical staff. The photograph was taken, if story is correct week beginning the 23rd November. If it is the source then surely almost the entire squad should be isolating, or is it due to the "15 minutes with 2 metres" rule?
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4 hours ago, ArabFC said:
McMullan didn't play well against St Johnstone, I would agree, and yet, we looked like an entirely different team.
It's almost as if having outlets like McMullan (and even Sporle to a lesser extent) can help get you up the field.
Instead of just fcuking launching the ball to nobody!
Even ignoring all that, the player who is essentially keeping McMullan out of the team is Bolton (1 assist & 0 goals in 14 PL games). If you find him less infuriating, well that's lovely.
Never mentioned any players that I find less infuriating. I only mentioned Mcmullan who over 3 seasons has been a source of major frustration to me. Flatters to deceive.
Bolton has only had a handful of starts as a wide player, spent most of the last wee while playing as a defender almost. Not been here long enough to form a good opinion, although I'm not seeing enough attacking from him full stop. Could be the tactics though. McMullan, though after 115 appearances I think I'm on pretty safe ground with my views. I want him to do well, but if you get into a good area as a winger but can't cross, take too many touches and do the square root of hee-haw again, then there is almost no point to him playing. He is 24, been playing first team football for over 5 and a half years. Questions need to be asked if he is ever going to get to the level and achieve the potential he is hoped to achieve. The Championship is one thing, the Premiership needs, or should I say demands more consistency and better decision making.
Your comment about launching it, quite why you brought that up as I made no comment on our tactics. I do not agree with launching it, never have, I do not agree with defending without attempting to keep possession and I agree we looked better in that game. It wasn't McMullan but the whole team was playing to different tactics. It was good to see Sporle back too and agree with you that their attacking play was part of that improvement in play. HOWEVER running into dead ends and, letting it run out etc gifting it back to the opposition looks better is more exciting, but the end result is exactly the same as punting it aimlessly.
A discussion on the merits or otherwise is good and encouraged, playing the man (or poster) isn't.
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15 hours ago, ArabFC said:
Worth highlighting this again...
He may be pish, but maybe some pish is better than no pish. Stats from last season
Quote12 hours ago, kingjoey said:I was under the impression that you were like me, older and a bit mature, obviously not. Last night McMullen had loads of the ball. He continually drove forward with it and did absolutely zero constructively. He would either run the ball out of play for a goal kick, drive into the box and pass to a Saints player, or cross to a Saints player. He may get away with that in a lower league, but won’t against most Premiership teams.
The problem I have with McMullan is I kind of agree with both here. Last season he'd did have most assists, but just like this last game, the amount of poor decisions in promising positions, or dribbling into a defender, out of the pitch, wasted crosses is incredible.
When it goes we'll he's a good player and a positive to the team, when he plays as he did against St Johnstone he is absolutely infuriating. Completely flatters to deceive. "BUT,BUT he had good runs and ran forward" shout fans in his defence, I expect far more than someone running forward giving it away or kicking out of the pitch, yet this is seen as a positive(??).
I can see where those are coming from that thought he did OK, but for me in this game you can run and drive forward all you like but if nothing is created and you give the ball back to the opposition then not so much. Once or twice, you expect as things won't come.off.everytime, but all the time... So close to being a really good player, but the same argument as previous seasons, needs to improve decision making and final ball, the defenses we are up against have improved since last season.
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Dundee United v Saintees 9 January 2021
in Scottish Premiership General Chatter
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Keep seeing this on here that the heating was not switched on until Saturday morning. Has this been confirmed or is it just internet guess work?
Genuine question as I haven't seen this anywhere else.