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8 hours ago, Dons_1988 said:
That article is pure arrogance.
Condescending dismissal that fans just revel in their rivals getting relegated, even though we know it's 'unfair' really. The bold Tom is the only one thinking clearly here, apparently.
Article is pure unadulterated pish!
He knows he has lost the fight, misread the room and is now trying to mitigate it. He is also trying to shoe horn governance of SPFL into it (39% votes for a review into the SPFL governance), it's a smoke screen to the COVID-19 hit league finishing early, a separate issue. He is trying to use it to save face. Anyone of any intelligence sees through it.
I agree with you regarding the condescending time about the "glee" in misfortune hitting a rival etc. Sorry Tom that's shite and you know it.
Tom English, a previously well thought of BBC Sport Scotland correspondent, has backed the wrong horse, ignored facts that don't fit his point, spun comments to fit his agenda and thrown away all objectivity. He has lost all credibility. The sad thing is he can't see it.
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4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:
An alternative perspective.
Must be great not living in reality. Not having to worry about money, job, mortgage or intact anything at all other than the self constructed fantasy land in your own head.
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3 minutes ago, Genuine Hibs Fan said:
19% surely?
Bugger!!!
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16 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:
f**k me English is a tedious w****r.
Complains that SPFL governance is a shambles because of the court case involving 5 clubs. The SPFL couldn't do any more than they did by having explicit rules that football matters should go to the SFA.
Hearts and Thistle have shat everywhere and now English wants to put the blame for it everywhere else.
Tom is still struggling with company law. And that if 31% of clubs want an inquiry then 69% ( a number over twice as large) don't want one.
Found myself going FFS Tom over than too. Interesting that he nails his colours to the mast over that vote (even though his view lost with 69% saying no), but he doesn't like mentioning that only 19% of clubs voted to not end the season.
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Tom English definitely not as loud, forceful or as quite as opinionated as previously, although the same record is still playing the volume has been turned down.
Raith Chairman came over very well and spoke sense.
As @Szamo's_Ammo has mentioned above, his comments about every club knowing about the 28 days timeframe for votes was well put and required. After all, it is in the Companies Act (Scotland)2006, the same act that governs any of the club's board members' successful businesses AND the clubs themselves! So if any of them didn't know then one has to ask exactly what experience in the corporate world they actually have.
Kenny McIntyre was decent as a host/referee today. A number of times he tried to hold Tom English to account. I wonder if some of this is in relation to the barrage of complaints that have come.into BBC Scotland recently over the program. Definitely noticed a subtle change on recent times. If not and it was on Kenny's own back then deserves slightly more.credit than he already did for today.
I did like Raith Chairman pulling both Hearts and Thistle statements up for the language used. Someone had to. I totally agree with him that "battle", "war", "never forget" & "good clubs" really does no one any favours at all. If Doncaster's statement is being pulled apart for him saying "vindicated" which is a fact on this subject, then theirs needs questioned too.
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Interesting listening to the Raith Chairman talking about reconstruction and the second vote. Being told if you didn't vote one way you were "stupid" or "prejudiced" against certain clubs. How to win friends and influence people!
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21 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:
Right everybody, rap it! We're a fucking joke.
Stephane Adam said so.
So what is French football?
No vote, just stopped the league and called it,
Two clubs want reconstruction
Two clubs take the decision to court
Court bumps it back to league
Teams vote with large majority against enlargement of league and League is called as is.
Clubs still threatening legal action
So Frenchman Stephane Adam, are we really? Or are you talking shite to engratiate yourself with Hearts fans?
That doesn't include Belgium or FC Utrecht in Netherlands. Twat!
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5 minutes ago, johnnydun said:
Job done, close thread.
Can we get back to hating each other again?
f**k United.
@Szamo's_Ammo pump me full o' reds! I've missed it!
Always felt "dirty" green dotting you...so for old times sake have this.....
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22 minutes ago, Fife Saint said:
JKB taking it well
* thinly veiled threats on ND when potentially handing them the Championship title
* referring to some clubs as the 'Calpol 3'
* a bizarre logo referencing 'the fist of Gorgie'That always amused me because there was one club spitting the dummy out and acting like a tearful child.
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1 minute ago, welshbairn said:
Not sure what pies have to do with it but apparently the Fist of Gorgie is rising from its slumber.
What ever they do in the privacy of their own homes is entirely up to them!
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25 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:31 minutes ago, Shotgun said:"Lord Clark left it open to go back to court should we feel we've been hard done by"
They clearly don't understand the law.
That's been obvious from the beginning!
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55 minutes ago, Poet of the Macabre said:
I hope his 30,000 other posts are as high-quality as that one.
"Paid Member" on a Hearts' forum is definitely grounds for being disqualified from voting in local or national elections.
Well he's got one thing right and we can all agree on that.
What part of legally binding & can only go to court if an error in law has been made don't they understand?
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59 minutes ago, Lex said:
No surprise. Hearts humiliated yet again, get it up them.
Will this be enough for them or will they make some attempt to drag this disgrace out yet further?
Either way I hope the SFA comes down hard on them.
They can't Arbitration is final and binding and can only be taken to court again IF there was an error made in law.
In other words, they're shit out of luck!
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20 minutes ago, Szamo's_Ammo said:
Is that a signing emoji at the end of the tweet?
Looks like it, unless they are using that for "match report"
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43 minutes ago, skinny arab said:
Another friendly today and once again zero communication from the club re line-up or score updates. Our pre season coverage has been absolutely shocking, the fans have been starved of any action yet our final friendly just 1 week before the season starts goes by completely unreported.
I follow Locomotive Leipzig in the German Regionally Nordost. Their season finished a few weeks ago with the playoffs for Bundesliga 3, and new season starting in a few weeks, but every friendly has had constant updates, complete with photos of action etc. If a club at that level can manage it surely United can. I know the likes of photos etc will be difficult here due to the restrictions still on attending in Stadia etc but it surely wouldn't be difficult to provide lineups and action updates from a clean room with a view.
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Just now, Green Day said:
Aw fucks sake, now Neil McCann is using his "brain" to tell us how things are..........................
Thank God I've just switched off!!
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Yet again they show themselves up as not having a clue how things work.
When talking about what happens with false positives, and the canceling of games we had the comment about clubs not being happy as they could lose money etc and the classic they might have been on TV and they'd lose money for that.
How many times does it need said before these clowns understand, you do not get money for being on TV in the league. It's all added to the prize pot shared out to the clubs.
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9 hours ago, 8GamesToGo said:
Which is why from the start Hearts have proposed reconstruction and not, for example, null and void. Get it now?
They did.
Rangers, ICT AND Hearts, were pushing for null and void with place based prize money being given out. This got up the noses of Championship clubs that were at the meeting. Scott Gardner was pushing it. Dave McKinnon put his name to the story and Gardiner as backed up by other Championship clubs.
ICT rounded on the Record after printing the story, yet once the other clubs spoke out ICT and Gardner have been conspicuous by their silence.
Hearts have been trying all angles, which IS self interest. They have been trying to save themselves from relegation. It's understandable, but at least don't be a hypocrite by saying only other clubs are doing that.
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A worry for us as it looks like Rangers* have put our players at risk.
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Just now, 8GamesToGo said:
Why are folk asking me questions then?
Waiting on you answering them. Still haven't.
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4 minutes ago, 8GamesToGo said:
Good grief.
So that's a no - the play-offs couldn't have been played either? For what reason again... must have missed it in your rant there?
The reconstruction proposal voted on was Livingston FC's proposal by the way. It was a perfectly reasonable solution that took the "do no harm" approach for finding a solution to this whole mess. You might change your view on reconstruction soon
No I won't.
Sorry if I didn't answer your question, you've spent weeks and weeks not answering questions.
Frustrating isn't it?
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27 minutes ago, 8GamesToGo said:
Oh how "unfair". Am I doing this right?
Finishing the league *could* have been possible. A way *could* have been found. They didn't even fucking discuss it, while other leagues found way.
After that, reconstruction was the next best option for everyone. Another cluster f**k of self-interest and spite.
And what about the playoffs. What's your reasoning for the playoffs not happening as a mini tournament now we have contact football?
I think you've been shouting unfair from the start so no need to change your record now.
A way could have been found?
Can you actually engage your brain and answer the fecking questions that you've had weeks and weeks to think up answers for?
How? Give us a plan rather than just thickly and obtusely going "could have".
When? Give us your plan.
Please include your working including
Financially
Costs involved to all clubs
Payback to existing contracts
Payback to SKY for new contract starting late
Scot Gov saying GET TO f**k to Scottish football, including closed doors games as they said they didn't want folk piling round houses to watch it.
SPFL and SFA have been in constant contact with Scot Gov, updates are publicised.
UEFA deadlines
Euro games and the calendar
Ignoring England,Italy, Spain, Germany etc as they are completely irrelevant. Different legislatures, laws, infection rates etc.
The fact that Aberdeen have had a positive COVID test from a player
ST Mirren now have 7 backroom staff positive. With this news it's pretty unlikely players haven't caught it. Possible also that their opponents in friendlies may have caught it.
There is a lot more, but I'll keep it simple.
HEARTS HAVE BEEN ENGAGED WITH SELF INTEREST FROM DAY 1!!!!
THE RECONSTRUCTION PROPOSALS WERE FUCKING SHITE AND WRITTEN UP BY A MORON WITH ONE THING IN MIND, SAVING HEARTS.
It still won't get through your head that Budge's proposals were absolute bollocks. Not once did the " failure of a club owner" pick up the phone and lobby the chair persons/CEOs she NEEDED to back her plan, listen to their issues and "improve" her plan. Speak to and convince these heads of clubs that her plan was solid, especially after the.shenanigans with Hearts, ICT and Rangers.
Now there has been debate on here. Looking at facts and seeing what could be done, looking at Gov responses etc. You have contributed like a "sound bite" politician, saying buzzwords but nothing substantial behind them. Give us the meat to your ideas.
I'll use the phrase again...shit or get off the pot! Put forward how what you say could be done or it will prove your devoid of ideas and repeating buzzwords with nothing to back it up.
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18 minutes ago, Aim Here said:
And games have to be played before August 8th, giving you 28 days to play the rest of the season.
Meaning that to complete the season, players would have to play 2-3 games per week - without any training beforehand.
SFA rules mean that you cannot play games on consecutive days, meaning that, if you want training, you get a maximum of 11 days training (plus rest), followed by an extremely punishing schedule of 8 games in 17 days. For Rangers and St Johnstone, that's 9 games and less training. That's a recipe for injury damage across the entire league - but what's a few cruciate ligaments if it's standing in the way of Hearts not being relegated, eh?
Give it a fucking rest with the 'the league could be played' shit. Not even Heart of Midlothian football club believes that - they assented to ending the season (the Premiership wasn't ended by the disputed vote, but by an SPFL consultation and board meeting a month afterwards) and there is no mention of playing out the league in their petition. It is a dead argument, and you lost it long ago, just as you lost the league on the pitch. Hearts petition is all about reconstruction or compensation.
Arguing about playing the rest of the league is as futile and pointless now as arguing about what would have happened had JFK not been assassinated or had Albert Kidd taken up badminton instead of fitba'. You lost. Get over it. Stop greetin'.
It's worse than that, it's the 3rd August so only 23 days.
But in reality a lot less as clubs would not be happy ( especially if relegation was on cards) with very little contact training before the meaningful games start.
If you take the full 23 games, it means clubs would be required to play a game once every 2.8 days. We have clubs complaint they have to play 5 games in 14 days and blaming losses on "tiredness". It would be a hole new range of "it's not fair" complaints.
See Northern Ireland league, which was going to finish then had no option but to call league by PPG.
Remember though it's just Scotland that never finished a league.
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1 hour ago, RandomGuy. said:
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League Reconstruction 20/21 season
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Fair play.