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What turnout? Just looks like some folks having their shopping interupted by some old guys pretending to be soldiers and making a lot of noise. There were about 10 - 15 civilians walking in step with them. Everyone else had to move out of the way and stop and others walking just ignored it, getting on with their Saturdays. But.....If that is what you think is a good turn out.

Maybe licenced clubs should get 4 points for a win then. It really isn't a shame, they didn't deserve it. Tayport are licenced, maybe a couple more during the summer, dunno??

Its been all over the local papers, social media and news over the last week here, most people would have known about it, you couldn't miss it up here. I wouldn't read much into photo either for crowds, since both the pedestrianised Eastgate / High Street are behind the photographer. The bridge walkway above the march is an access way to the back of the Eastgate Center from the Crown district. That route is mainly used by vehicles and is the longer, less direct way up into Crown if you walk it. It might be the last one in given the growing pressure to stop them. Its not a good look for the Inverness authorities especially in these socially inclusive times.

Cricket march tomorrow around Inverness town center. Apprentice Boys of Derry doing the circuit once again this time in the face of much objection. First time any objection has been raised, took long enough, Inverness is not a cricket city, we don't welcome the sport here. https://www.inverness-courier.co.uk/news/update-marching-on-the-apprentice-boys-of-derry-refuse-to-348391/ Gravedancers will be out in force wearing their Rangers tops making them feel superior to everyone who isn't 'wan aff us'. Unless you want to stand in front of the mark to get them throwing punches and spitting at you, probably best to avoid the place this weekend. I've said this all ready I have lived in Inverness all my life and everytime I see photos of the march I have still to recognise anyone, absolutely anyone in that march. Where do they come from?

Yeah to be pedantic about it, it would be said that rock is a genre and grunge is a style. It does exist because you thought it.

There's a complete lack of drainage snobbery on here. You would think that on such a thread some people could not go 5 minutes without talking about drainage.

I only really use labels for references when communicating with other people, I don't really like them as many bands go beyond like you mentioned Boris one of my favourite bands who can switch easily between really heavy doom and then noise rock. Its meaningless to me personally. High on Fire are another of my bands you mention. But yes these bands were leaders in their field but up to around late 1996 there was a complete lack of new ground breaking artists. Usually you'd find the music magazine's writers finding artists some not signed, but to me this period was very poor. Much of the metal genre had gone stale, my fovourites around the time were usually industral in style. Pitchshifter and Godflesh were two that were important. I actually missed DM band At the Gates who I only found about once I started buying Terrorizer magazine around 1999, they became one of my all time favourite artists. Faith No More were a mainstay of that era, I still listen to Mike Patton and his soundscapes and vocal contortions. I still like Devin Townsend as well. There is so many others, I should go through my collection. btw when I talk about so few that means around 30 or 40 artists on the go not 5 or 6, when it should have been in the hundreds. Love the internet, but I miss the magazines. Terrorizor and Rock Sound are sadly missed. Alice in Chains were good for a while around 1990 but I'm more punk in taste than metal so I lost interest in that as it became more polished, commercial and losing its personality and energy. To me by 1993 only Nirvana were left, even Mudhoney didn't sound that great anymore. I was never into Screaming Trees, and Soundgarden were bunch of w*****s. I always found Dinosaur Jr and Sonic Youth more interesting and the new wave of punk and alternative bands in the USA were far more interesting plus they were around my age as well, not older. The UK music scene became more interesting as well with established genres getting blended and mixed. I really like left field electronic music and that took a huge leap forward around the early mid 90's as well. Good times. I liked Compulsion a British band that had a post grunge feel, there weren't that many like that in the UK, the market is completely different here than over in the USA. The music especially in the underground/alternative scenes here moves fast. There was a band called Todd in the 2000's who come across as very influenced by the early heavier sound of Seattle. There is a band called Luminous Bodies around over the last few years who seemed to have captured that late 80's Sub Pop sound and feel.

I'll give you Death metal because Scream Bloody Gore and Florida, but not Black metal or grindcore. There was a lot proto-if-that'-the-right-word-bands of early metal genres around during the mid and late 80's like for example Justin Broadrick after leaving the original line up of Napalm Death formed Fall of Because and then Godflesh who were very pioneering for their time, there's industral. Another one that springs to mind. It can be claimed Black Sabbath were the first doom metal band and there were similar bands around during the 70's. Cathedral formed in the late 80's followed this path. I can probably give you sludge because of the fantastic Melvins, I can't think of anyone further back. Stoner metal not really that extreme nor began in the 90's had already been around since the late 60's but had a revival through bands like Electric Wizard and Orange Goblin, Sleep were another notable one. Both EW and OG are British. Google says Blue Cheer formed in 1966 were the 1st stoner metal band, I'm familiar with them, good band, if you haven't listened to them give Vincebus Eruptum a listen, check out their version of 'Summertime Blues'. Noted they were a favourite of the Hell's Angels. The 90's especially the mid nineties I believe were very poor for metal, indeed there were some great bands around, but they had been around for a while, there wasn't much in the way of numbers especially new artists and it didn't change much until around the end of 1996. The late 90's was amazing, its when metal completely reinvented itself. So many new artists and so many interpretations and visionarys within the genres. Many of these artists I still buy music of, they never get old and the influence continues with new next generation artists every year. There is so many crossovers now as well.

Are you sure about that?

Real grunge had a punk element to it, born out of the Washington and Oregon schools. Amazing bands , the genre peaked at around 1989, Sub Pop label had a great roster of bands to pick through like Tad and Mudhoney. Nirvana absolutely had their roots in punk rather than rock music and KC never held back talking about his influences which included many British bands. It was unfortunate that more rock orientated bands from the west coast got lumped in with that form of music. Grunge was always sludgy and or bass heavy punk completely unlike Screaming Trees and Pearl Jam. There's an album called 'No Seattle : Forgotten Sounds of the North West Era 1986-97' which covers mainly unknown bands from that genre plus some others whom were of a similar mind based in the small towns in Washington State outside the main focus point of Seattle. This is the shit -

Yeah that's fine. I have the habit of over explaining because I'm used to people trying to read into my and other peoples comments things that are not there, so my idea of covering all bases tends to look like more than one point. I've go to stop doing that and I should just tell anyone who tries to second guess me to just suck it up and deal with it. btw I tried to link to the OP, looks like they have been emptied.

It feels like the Dubai and their idoicy is going of topic so I will focus on the more interesting one, music. The so called grunge genre was going out of fashion before Britpop appeared. It was pretty much done by 1993. Many of the bands were gone by then so was many of the labels that supported them. A new wave of punk grew out of the west coast universities and collages as grunge faded, much of the impact of this is still felt in music today and in culture even in the UK. In my time listening to music over 50 years I have found that the British are very good inventors of different types of music but the Americans copy and take it to a new level and own it. No issues with this as if you know the influences then you know were they are coming from. What influenced the Butthole Surfers though back in the early 80's, that is a good question?

A hurricane or cyclone as they are called there is a storm. A storm creates a storm surge which is a rise in sea level due to the low air pressure. As the storm moves into land so does the storm surge and this surge along with a normal tide, unlucky if the tide is in can send seawater flooding on the land. Deserts are extreme environments and its not uncommon for rain events to be extreme. We see this all around the world where there are deserts, the coast of the UAE should not be an exception just because some people claim 'it has never happened'. Not having any storm defences including storm drains is just f***ing stupid and the authorities should take responsibility for this. Not having a go at you, I'm just asking how do you know that a storm the size of a hurricane has never hit there, historical, before anything was built, before Dubai? I'm looking at historical weather maps and I have say Dubai has been very lucky so far. It does occasionaly happen but usually if a cyclone or tropical storm reaches that far and that far north usually the Arabian peninsula protects the UEA but all it take is one to track further north of Oman and reach the gulf and there you go and we have seen so much unusual weather in recent years. Unusual in the sense that it has not been recorded before. Similar I've heard the storms never reach this side of the island (Puerto Rico)claim a few years ago, reasurance that the sister factory to the one I work in was perfectly safe. Absolute BS as Hurricane Maria proved in 2017. It would be no surprise that geologists and climatologist are aware of the risk but also aware of the rarety of such an event. It never ever says that will never happen because the odds are that it will happen eventually. Just like County beating Rangers.

Back on topic -

Which point are you making the analogy for since I only made one point?

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I'm sure I'm late to the party here in listening to this song, but this is actually, I could even say I don't hate it-

Its sad thing that there would and should have been a real second album around 1990 or early 1991 from the Stone Roses. Completely ruined by the fighting over contracts between record labels. They weren't allowed to even record new music. I'm not sure if some of that new material that had been written back then is on the Second Coming, I assume so. That would have been problematic since that sound would have been out of date in 1994 plus no John Leckie to produce and mix, so those songs would have had to be changed. The Second Coming was actually a pretty good album looking back now and came out just after the start of what was called Brit pop in the music press so came out exactly at the right time for um .....a third album. They hadn't been forgotten about which was good, but some of the comments I got about the album was that some fans expected the Second Coming to be similar to the 1st and were dissappointed. I'm not surprised since the gap was about five and a half years and music had evolved and changed so much very quickly. It did sell well and continued to sell well for a good couple of years more. I'm listening to the new material John Squire has recorded with Liam Gallagher for the first time just now, track - 'Just Another Rainbow' sounds quite psychedelic.

I've just ordered that, cheers for letting me know. I'll look forward to reading it. I'm reading Gary Numan's autobiography just now and I have the Bernard Sumner one lined up as well for after that. Thank you.

I was listening to the Mayhem album Esoteric Warfare at half four in the morning, track 3 Trinity - The lyrics each line starts with a Vrill! or a Hail! before each line like Vril! Babylon followed by Vrill! the Antichrist, Vril! the Rocketeer etc and so on. lyrics of the song to get the context of what I thought I heard - „Now, I am become Death. The destroyer of worlds“ Vril! Babalon Antichrist Rocketeer Trinity a-bomb holy grail Manhattan shangri-la black sun coming race golem-makers open abyss twilight Bohemia moonchild incarnate I am the god of war and vengeance I will give you a war engine Hail! Critical mass Atomic fire Thousand suns Road of death Wormhole Apocalypse Gate of stars Zero hour Half asleep lyrics I misheard inserted after one of the Hails!! It was something like - Hail!! The morning baker who opens at 8. I perked up and cracked up laughing, ....''some people just want to watch the world burn, don't they?''.

I don't know, I think most people would say that John Squire was the brains behind the Stone Roses and by miles a better songwriter while Ian Brown's strength was purely being the frontman with an easily recognisable singing style and an attitude. Ian Brown's solo career has proved this, initially he had some success built on his previous reputation but it quickly got old. I didn't didn't go to Rock Ness the year Ian Brown performed but I could hear him sing 8 miles away as the wind carried the music up the glen to where I lived at the time and I got the full experience of his recognisable singing style , .....what would that be at the time maybe 15-18 years of performing live and he still can't f***ing hold a note, flat as a pancake. It was dreadful for someone of that experience not to learn and push himself to improve. I also heard the The Prodigy's set blown up the Glen by the wind in my direction and there was nothing wrong with how they sounded, even if the sound would fade and then come back. That was quite enjoyable, sitting in the garden 8 miles away from Dores and being able to hear The Prodigy. Tim Burgess I think is a far better frontman and songwriter and just solidly a decent guy. The Charlatans have a lot more staying power than many of the other bands that were born around the same time that became part of the 'scene' Much of that down to the quality of the songwriting consistancy and band members that generally didn't end up hating each other due to egos. I would like to read their story, if Tim Burgess ever writes an autobiography.

Northern Uproar, that's a blast from the past, that made me go to YT and watch a couple of their music videos just now. Still going according to wiki, though their last album was in 2015.

Unfortunately you need to reply to posts and offer discussion, so forum rules apply here that you lose the right to the topic after three hours doing nothing and therefore it become a free space in which any topic can be disscussed such as The Charlatans, Spider Man gifs and pizzas.