Fullerene Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 14 hours ago, BFTD said: Ah, well the answer's probably, "sure, but you might have problems if anything goes wrong". Maybe ask to have the limit reduced in case someone else gets access to your precious deets and you end up on the hook for silly money. Presumably you'll be in the same country? That would definitely flag up with the provider! Edit: I had to call my credit card provider once because I was in Glasgow and it "isn't somewhere we normally see you spending money" Note to self: BFTD never buys a round when he is in Glasgow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 14 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: Even the secret basement i built being a Gloucester-based builder, you must have some sparky mates you can ask? Maybe ask Rose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 18 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: Question for any resident sparkys on here Been in our gaff now for over 6 years, in that time the electrics have been pretty solid apart from on 3 or 4 different occasions now the fuse for downstairs will trip After narrowing it down to the downstairs plug sockets (it defo is) we have proceeded every time to switch off and unplug every socket downstairs including they pain in the arse ones under the kitchen units, and when we go to flip the downstairs sockets on again it still trips the downstairs fuse However, everytime this has happened, after 12hrs give or take, the sockets will magically not trip the fuse and everything goes back to normal When it happens i can run extension cords from upstairs landing down to plug the fridge and telly/router in along with any kitchen appliances needed (it's weird as this has only ever happened at night) but also, it happened the other day when nobody did anything, nothing new was plugged in or unplugged etc Any ideas what could be causing the trip and why it resets itself after half a day When you say the fuse for downstairs, is this an RCD main switch which powers a row of breakers for multiple downstairs circuits (one of which is the sockets)? It may be as simple as an earth wire not fully sheathed behind a socket cover, especially if it's an older property with metal boxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 hours ago, Bairnardo said: I once knew a guy of the same name who insisted it was pronounced Smiley Aye a girl I worked with married her dream man, but was seriously put off by his Smellie name. She insisted it was pronounced Smiley, but I don't think I ever used it. Oh we laughed! I say we... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I drive up Smellies Lane on a daily basis. Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 19 hours ago, 54_and_counting said: Question for any resident sparkys on here Been in our gaff now for over 6 years, in that time the electrics have been pretty solid apart from on 3 or 4 different occasions now the fuse for downstairs will trip After narrowing it down to the downstairs plug sockets (it defo is) we have proceeded every time to switch off and unplug every socket downstairs including they pain in the arse ones under the kitchen units, and when we go to flip the downstairs sockets on again it still trips the downstairs fuse However, everytime this has happened, after 12hrs give or take, the sockets will magically not trip the fuse and everything goes back to normal When it happens i can run extension cords from upstairs landing down to plug the fridge and telly/router in along with any kitchen appliances needed (it's weird as this has only ever happened at night) but also, it happened the other day when nobody did anything, nothing new was plugged in or unplugged etc Any ideas what could be causing the trip and why it resets itself after half a day Not a sparky but did manage properties for 20 odd years and it sounds like it could be a dodgy appliance. Ovens, hobs, showers- things that are switched on even if not in use. Could be worth going through a process of elimination on these. Mice and poltergeists a possibility too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 hours ago, Zetterlund said: When you say the fuse for downstairs, is this an RCD main switch which powers a row of breakers for multiple downstairs circuits (one of which is the sockets)? It may be as simple as an earth wire not fully sheathed behind a socket cover, especially if it's an older property with metal boxes. Yeah its an RCD main switch, would the earth wire problem not cause this to happen more often and no reset itself after half a day, seems a strange "fix" if you will to just leave the downstairs socket switch off for 12hrs then flip it back on again, 3 hours ago, Shandon Par said: Not a sparky but did manage properties for 20 odd years and it sounds like it could be a dodgy appliance. Ovens, hobs, showers- things that are switched on even if not in use. Could be worth going through a process of elimination on these. Mice and poltergeists a possibility too. Nah i unplugged every single appliance, and turned all sockets off at their switches as well and the fuse still tripped, so im guessing its a wiring problem or an issue with the fuse box itself, Its weird how it just suddenly works after half a day, since then ive had everything back plugged in and its been running fine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Yeah its an RCD main switch, would the earth wire problem not cause this to happen more often and no reset itself after half a day, seems a strange "fix" if you will to just leave the downstairs socket switch off for 12hrs then flip it back on again, Nah i unplugged every single appliance, and turned all sockets off at their switches as well and the fuse still tripped, so im guessing its a wiring problem or an issue with the fuse box itself, Its weird how it just suddenly works after half a day, since then ive had everything back plugged in and its been running fine Nuisance tripping of RCDs can be a bit random and annoying to diagnose. I went through it myself recently after fitting an aircon unit in my kitchen and taking it off the socket circuit. RCDs have a built-in tolerance for current leakage to earth. Every appliance and circuit will have a normal tiny amount of leakage, and if the cumulative total from all the circuits powered via the RCD main switch exceeds it it will trip. An electrician can check this out pretty quickly (I'm not a sparky but come across this sort of thing when working with them). In my case, it turned out the main switch was oversensitive and tripping below its tolerance. Replaced the switch and all good. Not sure about the resetting after half a day thing. Is anything on a timer, or do you have solar panels? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: Nuisance tripping of RCDs can be a bit random and annoying to diagnose. I went through it myself recently after fitting an aircon unit in my kitchen and taking it off the socket circuit. RCDs have a built-in tolerance for current leakage to earth. Every appliance and circuit will have a normal tiny amount of leakage, and if the cumulative total from all the circuits powered via the RCD main switch exceeds it it will trip. An electrician can check this out pretty quickly (I'm not a sparky but come across this sort of thing when working with them). In my case, it turned out the main switch was oversensitive and tripping below its tolerance. Replaced the switch and all good. Not sure about the resetting after half a day thing. Is anything on a timer, or do you have solar panels? Nah no time or solar panels, its weird to describe When the switch trips and you try flip the socket switch back on the RCD trips immediately when you move the socket switch When you leave it for an hour or two, the socket switch almost goes back on before the RCD trips again, Im probably miles off here as i havent a clue about sparky stuff, but it's like a charge has built up in a downstairs socket and its overloading the RCD, and then it gradually dissipates until theres nothing there and the sockets can turn back on, only thing is its not one socket lol Im sure one time i unplugged everything, then after a number of hours it went on, so i plugged everything in one by one till it tripped, thought it was say the washing machine, but when i unplugged everything and then plugged everything back in but a different order, it was say the cooker that tripped it If you get me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 40 minutes ago, 54_and_counting said: Nah no time or solar panels, its weird to describe When the switch trips and you try flip the socket switch back on the RCD trips immediately when you move the socket switch When you leave it for an hour or two, the socket switch almost goes back on before the RCD trips again, Im probably miles off here as i havent a clue about sparky stuff, but it's like a charge has built up in a downstairs socket and its overloading the RCD, and then it gradually dissipates until theres nothing there and the sockets can turn back on, only thing is its not one socket lol Im sure one time i unplugged everything, then after a number of hours it went on, so i plugged everything in one by one till it tripped, thought it was say the washing machine, but when i unplugged everything and then plugged everything back in but a different order, it was say the cooker that tripped it If you get me That does sound like a cumulative thing if a different thing causes it to trip when plugged back in in a different order. It should be reasonably straightforward to diagnose, and if you're lucky like me could just be a dodgy main switch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) Is @throbber on a wee vaca to England? Edited March 23 by TxRover 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Zetterlund said: That does sound like a cumulative thing if a different thing causes it to trip when plugged back in in a different order. It should be reasonably straightforward to diagnose, and if you're lucky like me could just be a dodgy main switch. Aye will probs mention to the sparky maintenance guy next time i see him, its not the worst problem given it corrects itself Hopefully its not a wiring problem downstairs as some of the kitchen plugs are under the units, meaning i need to take apart the unit bottom parts and they are a c**t to take out and put back in again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, 54_and_counting said: Aye will probs mention to the sparky maintenance guy next time i see him, its not the worst problem given it corrects itself Hopefully its not a wiring problem downstairs as some of the kitchen plugs are under the units, meaning i need to take apart the unit bottom parts and they are a c**t to take out and put back in again Get an electrician to carry out portable appliance testing, it's almost certain that something on it's own or collectively is causing it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: Get an electrician to carry out portable appliance testing, it's almost certain that something on it's own or collectively is causing it. Is that a PAT test? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Is that a PAT test? Is this a trick question ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, alta-pete said: Is that a PAT test? Yeah but only for portable appliances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Yeah but only for portable appliances. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, alta-pete said: HTH PAT Testing can't be done on ATM Machines 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Mark Connolly said: HTH PAT Testing can't be done on ATM Machines Which won’t work unless you’ve a PIN number. Spoiler Oh ffs I’m boring myself now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Mind when Grimbo's hoose burnt down and he was left potless so there was a crowdfund started (he never started it) and then used the money to do up a second house he was letting out knowingly with dodgy wiring? This is like an alternate view. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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