Raith Against The Machine Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 A game against a team from League One is definitely much easier than a team from the Juniors. Absolutely. Yup. Nope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGQ FAE KDY Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 me neither BigQ will still want the bus to leave kdy at 9:30.... Now you mention it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whistle Blower Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Very good draw. With Stirling at home you'd fancy them to win the replay, but you never know - have to say Hurlford's pitch looked poor from the highlights of the Stirling game so that could be an issue Aye, playing hoofball requires a bowling green like surface. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 How does it feel knowing one of your club's icons is a homophobe? http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/ex-rangers-star-marvin-andrews-slammed-4555527 The Lord works in mysterious ways. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Berk Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) A game against a team from League One is definitely much easier than a team from the Juniors. Absolutely. Yup. Nope. Ah, the blundering arsehole shows himself up again. Did I say MUCH easier? Time you put some integrity and honesty into your posts. And its your usual simplistic shite for the sake of contradiction. Stirling are well adrift at the foot of the first division and were lucky to get a draw. Absolutely. PS - I seem to remember Stirling being beaten 3-0 by Workington of the Northern Premier League in the Raydale Cup at the start of the season Edited November 3, 2014 by Big Berk -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Probably the best draw we could have got tbh. Excellent chance of getting through even despite our usual post British Summer Time form meltdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 If any of them get a man sent off we've Nae chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 PS - I'm just thinking it says something marvelous about the state of our team when Junior teams are a real threat us. I'm not sure why you think that wouldn't always be the case. There's a decent standard of football being played at the top end of the Juniors. Perfectly capable of giving most league teams a tough test. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Berk Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) A game against a team from League One is definitely much easier than a team from the Juniors. Absolutely. Yup. Nope. I'm not sure why you think that wouldn't always be the case. There's a decent standard of football being played at the top end of the Juniors. Perfectly capable of giving most league teams a tough test. So, on the one hand a team at the foot of League One trumps Juniors.... Fine, and on the other top Juniors a tough test for most league teams... no contradiction there then... Heads I lose, tails I lose... Maybe you should consider you might be preaching to the converted before jumping in with your lecture. In any case if thats your position shouldnt you be addressing not me but RAT Machine? Edited November 3, 2014 by Big Berk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dodds Dads Dead Dog Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 How does it feel knowing one of your club's icons is a homophobe? http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/ex-rangers-star-marvin-andrews-slammed-4555527 Suspicions were raised years ago when he wouldn't shower next one of Antonio Calderons Spanish signings Señor Willie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Suspicions were raised years ago when he wouldn't shower next one of Antonio Calderons Spanish signings Señor Willie. He didn't fancy his hola. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 So, on the one hand a team at the foot of League One trumps Juniors.... Fine, and on the other top Juniors a tough test for most league teams... no contradiction there then... Heads I lose, tails I lose... Maybe you should consider you might be preaching to the converted before jumping in with your lecture. In any case if thats your position shouldnt you be addressing not me but RAT Machine? No particular contradiction there, any league 1 side can give any championship side a game as well, as you usually find on the opening weekend of the season. There are decent players in the Juniors. The guy that caused us most trouble the other day had a spell at the Pars when they were higher up the leagues, and there are various others for whom their senior careers didn't work out for one reason or another that didn't necessarily mean they weren't good enough. The differences tend not to be anything stark on any gulf in technique, but more in organisation and decision-making (which ultimately was what cost Rose their goals the other day). But that's over-the-piece, and might or might not make itself apparent in a one-off game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Berk Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 (edited) No particular contradiction there, any league 1 side can give any championship side a game as well, as you usually find on the opening weekend of the season. There are decent players in the Juniors. The guy that caused us most trouble the other day had a spell at the Pars when they were higher up the leagues, and there are various others for whom their senior careers didn't work out for one reason or another that didn't necessarily mean they weren't good enough. The differences tend not to be anything stark on any gulf in technique, but more in organisation and decision-making (which ultimately was what cost Rose their goals the other day). But that's over-the-piece, and might or might not make itself apparent in a one-off game. The contradiction I refer to is between you and RAT Machine - you both challenge my view from opposite positions if you're careful to read it. Anyway, I agree that the top Juniors are a match for league sides, at least in the Second and much of the First, and I consider both Rovers and Stirling to be fortunate to be still in the Cup, going by almost unanimous reports. All this is why I said - to some contempt - that I expect Hurlford (the Junior Cup Winners) to be a more dangerous opponent than Stilring. Edited November 3, 2014 by Big Berk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover the Moon Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 So Linlithgow and Hurlford outplayed both us and Stirling yet neither won? I see a pattern here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers1992/1993 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The contradiction I refer to is between you and RAT Machine - you both challenge my view from opposite positions if you're careful to read it. Anyway, I agree that the top Juniors are a match for league sides, at least in the Second and much of the First, and I consider both Rovers and Stirling to be fortunate to be still in the Cup, going by almost unanimous reports. All this is why I said - to some contempt - that I expect Hurlford (the Junior Cup Winners) to be a more dangerous opponent than Stilring. Were you at either the Hurlford - Stirling game or the Linlithgow - Rovers game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Love how some Rovers fans are now turning wins into defeats. Rose played some good stuff and had a right good go at us in the first half but let's not get carried away. At no point in the ninety minutes did I think, f**k we are going out here. We had a bad day at the office but still ran out reasonably comfortable winners in the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Berk Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 So Linlithgow and Hurlford outplayed both us and Stirling yet neither won? I see a pattern here. Another dimwit thats so desperate to be contentious he puts words in my mouth. Where did you read that LInlithgow outplayed us? However most people - apart from the blinkered - admit that Linlithgow were the better team for most of the game. I wasnt at the Hurlford - Stirling game so I'm offering the commonly accepted verdict on that game. Or maybe its not whats said that rattles your cage, but who says it.... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If being the better team or outplaying us or whatever words people want to use to describe it means failing to get in front in the game, failing to score and losing comfortably in the end then I'd take our opponents being the better team every week. We played very poorly on Saturday but as I said at no time did I think 'f**k, we're going out here' Having watched Rovers go out to teams below them many a time over the years then Saturday's performance ranked nowhere near those sorts of horror shows. A decent junior side raised their game against a fairly lacklustre league one side but in the end the league one side clearly won yet for some it's armageddon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers_Lad Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) We played very poorly on Saturday but as I said at no time did I think 'f**k, we're going out here' honestly?i and i guess many more did especially in the first half Having watched Rovers go out to teams below them many a time over the years then Saturday's performance ranked nowhere near those sorts of horror shows. in my many years of following the rovers its up there A decent junior side raised their game against a fairly lacklustre league one side but in the end the league one side clearly won yet for some it's armageddon. fairly lacklustre?it was fairly brutal in terms of football played or ability,effort,chances created.the scoreline may suggest it was comfortable when it really wasnt. Edited November 4, 2014 by Rovers_Lad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADMO Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) If being the better team or outplaying us or whatever words people want to use to describe it means failing to get in front in the game, failing to score and losing comfortably in the end then I'd take our opponents being the better team every week. We played very poorly on Saturday but as I said at no time did I think 'f**k, we're going out here' Having watched Rovers go out to teams below them many a time over the years then Saturday's performance ranked nowhere near those sorts of horror shows. A decent junior side raised their game against a fairly lacklustre league one side but in the end the league one side clearly won yet for some it's armageddon. That's the problem right there for me though, we won this game via fitness alone and that's not acceptable. Most "big team vs little team" games have the smaller team flying out the blocks the first 10/15 mins and having a good go of it then pretty much fading out ... For arguably 50-60 minutes we were by a country mile the worst team on that pitch, that should NEVER be the case vs a Junior side, semi-decent or not. If Murray had set up how we should, we should have been able to withstand the original onslaught then calmly keep the ball and slow the game down a bit to our chosen tempo and controlled it from there on, instead it was like watching men vs boys, with us being the boys ! Edited November 4, 2014 by ADMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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