roverthemoon Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 As an aside Cardle was getting plenty of encouragement yesterday from Rovers support and was still bang average. I don't think there's a direct correlation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 "BOOOOOOO. BOOOOOOOOO. BOOOOOOOOO. BOOOOOOOOO. F@#@ING CHANGE IT MURRAY. BOOOOOOO." I know, weird we've went off the boil at home. Maybe it's time to encourage instead it's certainly the case at the away games a lot more encouragement from the away support and it seems to be paying off decent performances the last 3 games and results against dundee and alloaAs for Murray I think eh gas the players Backing and just need the belief in themselves The squad is far better than there league position shows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Home support weren't that bad. Only tine i can remember real vitriol was when we were 4-0 down to Hamilton, 100 % deserved too. I agree with you considering the run we have been on the Home support have hardly been chanting for Murry's head or calling for the board to be sacked, yes there is the odd boo and calls for Murray to change things but the fans of many other clubs would have been far more vocal during the last few months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuigan1978 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I was exaggerating of course, however, it very often isn't the most positive of environments to play football, which presumably doesn't help encourage players to want to get on the ball more etc etc. We were fairly good at home in the first few months though. Our rubbish run coincided with us having to play a huge amount of games away. Unfortunately that run continued once we came back to Stark's. I suppose all things considered, 7 points from Morton, Dundee, Hamilton, Livi and Alloa isn't too bad. Surely 3 or 4 more points will all but guarantee our survival now. Player of the year should probably be Moon, although a fit Watson or Elliot may have challenged that for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverthemoon Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 One more win and not losing to Cowden and we'll be fine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Saw this prize money stats in another thread. Underlines the importance of keeping playing right to end of season. The difference between say 5th and 8th is around 85k, the equivalents of having got another sky game 1: £386,248 (+£318,248) 2: £343,132 (+£276,132) 3: £300,016 (+£234,016) 4: £256,900 (+£191,900) 5: £240,731 (+£176,731) 6: £188,633 (+£126,633) 7: £172,464 (+£111,464) 8: £154,499 (+£94,499) 9: £138,331 (+£79,331) 10: £120,366 (+£63,366) Were those figures not reliant on a sponsor being found for the league. There'll definitely still be plenty money and a proportionate difference between the places, but I'm not sure it'll be quite that much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 "BOOOOOOO. BOOOOOOOOO. BOOOOOOOOO. BOOOOOOOOO. F@#@ING CHANGE IT MURRAY. BOOOOOOO." I know, weird we've went off the boil at home. But it's a chicken and egg thing. What sort of lobotomised semi-moron claps away happily and sings for some of the performances the team have been putting on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 But it's a chicken and egg thing. What sort of lobotomised semi-moron claps away happily and sings for some of the performances the team have been putting on.Well one things for sure just about everyone acts positively to encouragement but not everyone to criticism It's not like masses of fans are giving the team a hard time but I've been next to fans shouting obscenity at players which they can hear and I doubt it will boost there confidence 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover the Moon Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 On a similar theme, notice how few of the bams on Facebook post anything at all when we get a win but can't wait to criticise when we don't. Only happy when it rains... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Well one things for sure just about everyone acts positively to encouragement but not everyone to criticism It's not like masses of fans are giving the team a hard time but I've been next to fans shouting obscenity at players which they can hear and I doubt it will boost there confidence If they can't handle it though, then they are in the wrong job I'm afraid. Not that I disagree with you, it must have an effect on some players. Footballers need to be mentally strong, some can handle it, some can't. They still get paid at the end of the day. A lot more than the average punter as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 On a similar theme, notice how few of the bams on Facebook post anything at all when we get a win but can't wait to criticise when we don't. Only happy when it rains... I posted that it was a relief, which it was. And I posted on here on the match thread that we deserved the win. I just call it as I see it. I agree that some people are never happy though.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Well one things for sure just about everyone acts positively to encouragement but not everyone to criticism It's not like masses of fans are giving the team a hard time but I've been next to fans shouting obscenity at players which they can hear and I doubt it will boost there confidence From my experience, the majority of fans neither sing or boo. The majority sit in silence, with the occasional clap for good play, and cheering reserved only for goals. Edited March 30, 2014 by Scary Bear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuigan1978 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Just because you don't boo, doesn't make you a happy clapper. I'm neither, I certainly wouldn't clap and cheer if we're playing dung, I'd just rather chat to the boys I'm with about it, as opposed to lobbing abuse at the players. Fans can act however they like, but there's no way that heckling a team or player helps them along. It's quite obviously counter-productive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Just because you don't boo, doesn't make you a happy clapper. I'm neither, I certainly wouldn't clap and cheer if we're playing dung, I'd just rather chat to the boys I'm with about it, as opposed to lobbing abuse at the players. Fans can act however they like, but there's no way that heckling a team or player helps them along. It's quite obviously counter-productive. I didn't even boo them when they were 4-0 down to Accies at half-time. Likewise, I tend to just talk to my pals or check the Sky Sports app and see how my bets are doing. The excitement of watching Raith Rovers! Haud me back. I can't remember the last time I lost the plot at the football. Probably about time I did it again, just so I remember how to do it. The ref is usually the target of my profanities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) If they can't handle it though, then they are in the wrong job I'm afraid. Not that I disagree with you, it must have an effect on some players. Footballers need to be mentally strong, some can handle it, some can't. They still get paid at the end of the day. A lot more than the average punter as well. Not sure about that, the part timers will be on around 250 -300 and full time maybe 450 to 600 depending .... wouldn't be enough for me to take personal abuse at wok without retaliation.I heard that Celtic nation are on around 600 to 900 in the northern league all full time apparently I think some supporters don't put things into perspective, they expect footballers playing at this level to be flawless but unfortunately that isn't tag case at any keel Watch any game in the EPL and there's not a payer on the pitch that won't miss pass miss control of miss kick the ball and that on 50 to 200k a week Then maybe it's fair to have so poke at them Edited March 30, 2014 by Besty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardy Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Not sure about that, the part timers will be on around 250 -300 and full time maybe 450 to 600 depending .... wouldn't be enough for me to take personal abuse at wok without retaliation. I heard that Celtic nation are on around 600 to 900 in the northern league all full time apparently I think some supporters don't put things into perspective, they expect footballers playing at this level to be flawless but unfortunately that isn't tag case at any keel Watch any game in the EPL and there's not a payer on the pitch that won't miss pass miss control of miss kick the ball and that on 50 to 200k a week Then maybe it's fair to have so poke at them Yeah everyone makes mistakes. People just get frustrated. Of course the money that they make is not world changing, but still is a bit more than the average worker on say £12k a year for example. Plus playing football comes with that added pressure, and the fact you will get abused because of your performances. I'm not saying it's right, but I think the players know fine well that it will happen throughout their careers. All they have to do is get on with it. I work in retail and I've had people shout at me about how our returns policy is pish and that I'm not doing my job right. It doesn't make me do my job any worse. The same would be if my manager came up to me and said "why were those things not out away, or why was such and such not done" I'm not going to suddenly perform worse... It's all relative though. Edited March 30, 2014 by Wardy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoss Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I've hardly been to any away games this season so I was a bit worried there. But I've just checked and it's sixteen games, plus a couple of pre-seasons, so I'm safe to come in. Booth for player of the year, though I wouldn't argue with Moon. I've never booed anyone at Raith. Not even refs or opponents. Never understood it. Anyhow, we should be fine after all this season. The thing with relegation battles is it doesn't matter how terrible you are in some of the defeats so long as you manage to dredge up a couple of critical results from somewhere, it's not like promotion charges where you need consistency and a couple of bad games actually do screw you up. So while I understand the reactions to some of the performances, I think there's been a degree of over-reaction. Some serious questions need asking before next season though. It's been a poor winter even if we do survive, and while I don't really believe in sacking managers just because of results, the board needs to satisfy itself that Murray has some ability to analyse what he and the squad have done wrong and has some plausible ideas for sorting it. I hope he's able to satisfy them on that point and they keep him on - and I think they probably will - but I'll defer to their judgement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I've been to 32, plus all of our friendlies and two reserve games. #superfan Glad to see that my opinions are at least twice as relevant as Yoss's, as I'm sure we all suspected. Edited March 30, 2014 by Raith Against The Machine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 36, worship me bitches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I was including the Sheffield United friendly in my 15 games. I'm giving the diddy cup final a miss now too. Won't break my 15 duck until the Dumbarton game. Do I achieve inner peace or something after 15 competitive games? Edited March 30, 2014 by Scary Bear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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