Dawson Park Boy Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, grumswall said: 27 minutes ago, champions said: Can the closed door option not be explored? Millions of other people are still working, why not footballers? Mainly because they are trying to eliminate the spread of the virus and having footballers, officials etc travelling all over the country gives it a path way to spread. No logic in that. You seem to be saying that you want to halt all travel. Might as well stop living altogether?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 No I'm saying that the sfa etc are taking these precautions. If it was the governments doing it then I would be saying that... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 It seems the U.K. response is to accept that the spread is inevitable, and their control strategy is to try and level load the demands on the NHS over the summer months. Some say the big measures taken elsewhere will just result in a massive spike further down the line as a Joe Public will tire of restrictions after a short time frame.Sure there was also mention of this becoming seasonal, so it’s never going to be eradicated.Governments want/need to be doing something even when it’s something they can’t control. The loo roll hoarders and demonstrating the same traits. They are trying to exercise “doing something” about it in any way they can, and for now, that’s hoarding household consumables.No-one knows if their is a best strategy. That will only become clear in a few months time I suppose. Watching talking head political arseholes on TV trying politicise this to their advantage boils my piss far more than the current U.K. strategy tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Why should football clubs be treated differently from other businesses suffering as a consequence of the current health emergency? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gus2 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Funding the NHS has to take precedent over any other business at this time If Football clubs go to the wall It will be board and fans who will save or sink them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, HopeStreetWalker said: The ruling bodies don't have a coin between them to help their members who still have fixed expenditure. Players and staff wages, stadium running costs for example. If there is no policy statement from SFA-SPL etc. Clubs don't know what's happening so can't take a course of action to keep them in business. Run out of cash then it is game over. But this time it will be the final whistle ! If the season is void what happens to the prize money ? The governing body could use the prize money to be split in a manner that helps all of its members, it's wouldn't be fair at the top end but clubs dying isn't something I like to see. Edited March 14, 2020 by MrDust 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, MrDust said: If the season is void what happens to the prize money ? The governing body could use the prize money to be split in a manner that helps all of its members, it's wouldn't be fair at the top end but clubs dying isn't something I like to see. What prize money? Why do people think the SPFL is sitting on vast reserves of cash. The prize money comes from the tv companies in staged payments. If there's no football on they aren't getting paid. There's no money to distribute. Not in any significant number anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 As I always ask at this point, what’s your better suggestion?…Football is not important. If the season is made null and void so be it. Public health is the only thing that matters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Thing with this is there is no one that really knows what we are dealing with in terms of virus all we know is it brings on pneumonia and that is where the respiratory problems come in. The govt plan was to let it happen to let people catch it to grow an immune system to fight it, the trouble with that idea is if you have underlying health problems or elderly your effectively being classed as collateral damage and thrown under the bus. Since Scot and the other devolved assemblies went to one up Westminster Westminster is now adopting the same policy. Interesting thing is the Govt scientific advisors track record is being employed by large pharmaceutical companies so you can guarantee there is a financial bit at the back of any decision he makes. Its going to throw capitalism out the window thats for sure as everyone is going to be impacted by this banks, airlines, airports, you name it. On the one regarding the OG and TV monies as Bantabairn said the old Aberdeen chairman done a tell all in his biopgraphy i think it was (off the ball covered this) and as mentioned Lawell spat the dummy out, his comment was basically is if it doesnt go Lawells way then its a stalemate and he wont give any quarter away that favours any team other than Celtic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPar Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: On the one regarding the OG and TV monies as Bantabairn said the old Aberdeen chairman done a tell all in his biopgraphy i think it was (off the ball covered this) and as mentioned Lawell spat the dummy out, his comment was basically is if it doesnt go Lawells way then its a stalemate and he wont give any quarter away that favours any team other than Celtic. The same Aberdeen chairman who then sided with Celtic to maintain the ludicrous 11-1 voting structure which basically allows the Cheeks to kick out any proposal which is not to their benefit. He's a complete and utter hypocrite. This crisis will certainly expose how rotten Scottish football is from the top down: protectionism, uneven distribution of prize money, forcing those clubs who can least afford it to play in tournaments and accept broadcast deals which actually cost them money. Not a pretty sight. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 1 hour ago, MrDust said: If the season is void what happens to the prize money ? The governing body could use the prize money to be split in a manner that helps all of its members, it's wouldn't be fair at the top end but clubs dying isn't something I like to see. But they don't have any money to give as prizes. Sponsors will have a get out clause. No games then no gambling so there is no cut however small from the bookies on fixed odd coupons etc. Doncaster and the rest of the blazers will be well sorted though. That will be of great comfort to us all ! As I said the clubs need certainty even if it is bad news ie football closed down with a set date for a review and an assurance of an agreed amount of time before start up. Clubs can then make redundancies. Put facilities onto a care and maintenance basis. Renegotiate rents - Leases etc. FFC please note on the last one. Get the Community Stadium Company and the Council told. Token rent till further notice or we are off to share with Stenny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, HopeStreetWalker said: But they don't have any money to give as prizes. Sponsors will have a get out clause. No games then no gambling so there is no cut however small from the bookies on fixed odd coupons etc. Doncaster and the rest of the blazers will be well sorted though. That will be of great comfort to us all ! As I said the clubs need certainty even if it is bad news ie football closed down with a set date for a review and an assurance of an agreed amount of time before start up. Clubs can then make redundancies. Put facilities onto a care and maintenance basis. Renegotiate rents - Leases etc. FFC please note on the last one. Get the Community Stadium Company and the Council told. Token rent till further notice or we are off to share with Stenny. If we had any businessmen at the club that could have made a bid on the stadium the council are staring at a financial abyss and trying to find money from anywhere, we have the upper hand but seeing as no one that actually runs the club gives a shite and they are quite happy to put up with the council holding them to ransom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, AL-FFC said: If we had any businessmen at the club that could have made a bid on the stadium the council are staring at a financial abyss and trying to find money from anywhere, we have the upper hand but seeing as no one that actually runs the club gives a shite and they are quite happy to put up with the council holding them to ransom. If it came to a bid for the stadium then it has to include the surrounding land and facilities. Car park being a good example. How much would that be ? 3- 4 million or round about that. Even cheaper if the council are getting a casher up front. If an investor is looking to buy a club as a long term investment now is the time to do it. Cynical to say the least considering the situation facing people for months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) When you consider the car park got mono blocked and the charging stations were done by government grants Edited March 14, 2020 by AL-FFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 It all goes back to Lex Gold and his buffoonish lying to the point where he said that Falkirk couldn’t use Murrayfield as that stadium didn’t have sufficient hard barrier segregation between sets of fans. There he is now, an 80 year old man who sold his soul to peddle a lie like that. Maybe his 30 year civil servant career taught him that lying was ok. Utter scum of a man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopeStreetWalker Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 It is most likely football is in for a protracted shutdown. No need then for the stadium or facilities. Hand over the keys to the council with an 'all yours and the best of luck' Staff can work from home and video conference if required. require a face to face meeting hire a room at a golf club or a hotel like other firms. The council who contrived to get the majority stake holding in the stadium will be loosing big time. For the first time it is not a money pit. FFC their only tenant of any big value have just walked away. The council have never been in a weaker position. This is the first time since we left Brockville that we are in the stronger negotiating position stadium wise. Oh for a board with vision ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Given that the Labour & Tory groups on Falkirk Council have just passed a budget that is full of financial black holes it probably is a good time to put in a cheeky wee offer for the stadium. Shame we knocked back that nice Mr Campbell and his countless millions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AL-FFC Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Is anyone know if there is any truth in the post of them being in talks with the sale of the club ? ior is it just rumour/sh*te/wishful thinking ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Perrin Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Seen an earlier post ( maybe FB) not sure if it’s someone bullshitingI posted yesterday and I am 100% certain the person who told me was not bullshiting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 I know it’ll would only cover a fraction of running costs, but does anybody know the score with community use of the stadium?I used to play there on a Wed night so I know they rent out the pitch for 6/7 a side throughout the week - Is this sort of use still ongoing or has it been stopped? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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