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Discussing Saturdays game in general about where the club is heading, over a couple pints last night.
It’s a given we’re still haemorrhaging wages on absolute shite, which has/continues to impact us greatly, we’ve obviously found no takers for these charlatans.

M&S have brought in decent defenders, albeit injuries are adding up. What the agreed concern was that apart from McGlynn from Hibs, there’s a lot of uncertainty with the forward players brought in. 
Do players that sign with our competitors simply afraid to sign for us? Or are we not interested? 
Following McGlynns  pre match interview and unless Im wrong, it looks like that we’re at the numbers now.

As said critical few weeks that May shape our next few years….maybe our existence?

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1 hour ago, Kevin James Left Knee said:

NO - I am happy to tell you who I am if you wish, if you look at my posts I have mostly put up information about FSS with the odd personal view about the football thrown in. If the new Board get it wrong then I will happily criticise them.

And it is obvious who most people on here are - I could identify at least 7 people I know personally here just from their obsessions. If I had my way I would stop all anonymity on the internet - it only causes toxicity when people don't have to be identified with the things they write.

Couldn't care less who you are bud but I look forward with bated breath to your future posts criticising the board. 

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On 05/08/2022 at 20:28, Grangemouth Bairn said:

Is it likely he’ll sign ? He’s only 30 so I’m guessing there’s something far wrong if that’s the offers he’s getting. I’m guessing the heart condition has really impacted his fitness. It’s a real shame as the boy was a very talented footballer.

No idea how likely he is to join. Just know he was in there Tuesday and Thursday last week training, he was in conversation with Andy Bannerman who is normally in charge of contracts when it comes to new players with them although that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

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Before I say more, I am not in the camp that sees McGlynn as a brilliant manager, but I certainly don’t think he is down there with the likes of Sheerin and Rennie. I am fully on board that right now, he is the type of manager we need.

I do not buy into him being a turnaround specialist for clubs in trouble. There is simply no track record to support that. He has won L1 once, and he been awarded L1 once. He has improved RR, and he has also taken RR backwards.

As to how he has spent our budget, then I fully agree with the approach of fixing that defence first. That’s where the money has gone, and we haven’t seen enough of his first picks to be certain, but I think it should work out. Midfield should be better as we reduce the sand dancer content, and have a defensive mid worthy of the name in place.

The attack has received little attention, and we are functioning on a wing and a prayer, but come on, we certainly weren’t going to get everything on our wish list.

Saturday was a bit of a kick in the nuts because we all bought into “we won’t score many, we won’t concede many” To have that turned into “we won’t score any, and we will concede many” was a deja vu shit pie no-one wanted a slice of.

As the man said, it’s the hope that kills you, and for now that’s all we have to cling to (again).

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Looking at what's potentially available on loan from the scottish premiership I think if we can only make one more signing we'd be better off signing ourselves a centre midfielder on loan.

Archie Meekison's not really had a sniff at Dundee United, Dylan Tait's the same at Hibernian, Charlie Gilmour or Cammy Ballantyne from St Johnstone,    Dylan Reid at St Mirren.

At right back your options are a lot more limited and although Williamson's torture I think the middle of the park is where we lose most of our games.

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13 hours ago, Shodwall cat said:

Recruitment looks slightly better in that not all of our signings are shit but we're still missing out on players that should've been getting picked up . Ballantyne for a start. Feck me we should know all about him and yet he signs for a league one club with a smaller budget than we have.  The best youngsters seem to always end up elsewhere like the Jameson's and mochries and every other side in the league seems to have a player that can stick the ball in the net save us despite us again having a sizeable budget.  Have we ever put in bids for any of the strikers in this league and offered them a decent wage rise to come to us or are we just hoping to get lucky on a loan deal or unknown from down south as it would seem. It's frustrating that we are constantly getting outdone in the recruitment department by the likes of Airdrie and Montrose.

A factor could be the player churning over the last few seasons. Potential signings will be influenced by what has gone on in the past and in this financial climate job security is a premium consideration.

Talk about getting rid of contracted players and writing off new signings being good examples.

The club desperately needs a stable squad but our reputation hinders that from being achieved.

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2 hours ago, Shodwall cat said:

 I'm not saying we are treating him what I'm saying is we are obviously keeping him as a loan though and the money involved for that. Not sure whether we are paying it just now but it will be set aside in the budget and preventing us bringing someone else in to replace him whilst he gets fit at some point.  Couple of weeks is one thing but 8 weeks is a virtually a couple of months and then he has to get up to speed and his injury record ain't great as it is. Meanwhile mochrie is scoring for Dunfermline and Jameson is playing well for Airdrie. At the end of the day it's one of the reasons why we're having to start the 4 players of the apocalypse.

Don't know the ins and outs but I assume that as Kennedy was injured with us we don't have the option to return him and pay nothing.  I expect we have to pay whatever fee we've agreed with Rangers until the end of the agreement regardless of whether he's injured or not.  

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12 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said:

Don't know the ins and outs but I assume that as Kennedy was injured with us we don't have the option to return him and pay nothing.  I expect we have to pay whatever fee we've agreed with Rangers until the end of the agreement regardless of whether he's injured or not.  

Rangers are paying his wages whilst he is unavailable. Info came indirectly via Kenny Jamieson.

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36 minutes ago, Proudtobeabairn said:

Don't know the ins and outs but I assume that as Kennedy was injured with us we don't have the option to return him and pay nothing.  I expect we have to pay whatever fee we've agreed with Rangers until the end of the agreement regardless of whether he's injured or not.  

There's normally ways of getting out these agreements. I remember Patrick loaned a boy off rangers a couple of seasons ago when they were in league one with us. They then got the chance to get in tiffoney but had used up their loans so they punted the boy back to rangers two weeks into the loan so they could get tiffoney in.

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26 minutes ago, champions said:

Rangers are paying his wages whilst he is unavailable. Info came indirectly via Kenny Jamieson.

That's good although we'd still need to keep the money aside in the budget to pay him when he returns in a couple of months. Still means we're another man down till then. Be better if we could put the loan off till January and get another player in meanwhile.

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6 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said:

That's good although we'd still need to keep the money aside in the budget to pay him when he returns in a couple of months. Still means we're another man down till then. Be better if we could put the loan off till January and get another player in meanwhile.

Was told last season both the old firm don’t normally charge clubs when their respective players are selected, but if not selected you pay whatever the agreement is. Ensures their players are getting game  time.

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3 minutes ago, Springfield said:

Was told last season both the old firm don’t normally charge clubs when their respective players are selected, but if not selected you pay whatever the agreement is. Ensures their players are getting game  time.

Given our financial position I hope that doesn’t mean we are forced to play Alegria or Kennedy if they are not in form ?

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23 hours ago, AL-FFC said:

That one surprises me its, I don't know if its a confidence issue or it looks like he can't be arsed tbh, can't work out which.

Absolutely is a confidence thing with RW. He was such a promising youngster with us due to his attacking side, teams couldn't handle his pace etc then he dislocated his knee cap. Came back, done okay and then within a few months he had a double leg break. When he did return the boys confidence was shattered. He had his best moments when we had a team of brilliant players, when we were winning he was unplayable but if he ends up in a team taking the occasional do in with the fans on the players backs from the get go then he'll hide.

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21 minutes ago, The Toun Clock said:

Absolutely is a confidence thing with RW. He was such a promising youngster with us due to his attacking side, teams couldn't handle his pace etc then he dislocated his knee cap. Came back, done okay and then within a few months he had a double leg break. When he did return the boys confidence was shattered. He had his best moments when we had a team of brilliant players, when we were winning he was unplayable but if he ends up in a team taking the occasional do in with the fans on the players backs from the get go then he'll hide.

He seems terrified to put in a tackle or get stuck in these days. You can't do that in league one that's for sure.

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10 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said:

He seems terrified to put in a tackle or get stuck in these days. You can't do that in league one that's for sure.

To be brutally honest he’s one of the worse RBs I’ve seen. I’m sure there was a few warnings from PT fans when signed. 

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18 minutes ago, Springfield said:

To be brutally honest he’s one of the worse RBs I’ve seen. I’m sure there was a few warnings from PT fans when signed. 

I was always impressed with him when the pars played us but he's a shadow of that player unfortunately.

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16 hours ago, Kevin James Left Knee said:

Wonder who this is - a new account made especially to criticise the current board? No agenda here I guess. /s


This is exactly what I mean, even valid criticism is shouted down as some sort of agenda from the new guys. Why is that? What I’ve said is a perfectly legitimate complaint and not in the slightest abusive. Attempting to silence legitimate concerns is not a good look. 

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Looking back at the Airdrie game, they didn’t have a single circus pony on show who could dance around the ball and do little pirouettes in the middle of the park. They had no-one who fully checked out of the game if they didn’t have the ball.

We had two, and if you want to be hard nosed about it wrt Morrison, then we had three.

Add in Hetherington’s continued streak of not giving a performance worthy of the name, then for me, that’s why we can still throw in performances like Saturday…….just like any given Saturday last season. 

If you add in Williamson (and let’s be honest, the guy more than anyone has a legitimate back story as to why he isn’t the player he used to be) then it’s not good.

As long as those guys feature, we go into every game effectively two or three men down. They are near enough the constants from last season.

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